Bagpuss
Legend
I've been lead to believe that Essentials does not replace 4th Ed and is compatible with it.
There are two new Fighter classes Knight (Defender) and Slayer (striker) in the first players Essentials book Heroes of the Fallen Lands. And now thanks to the Compendium update I can see them, but I still can't understand how they work.
Unlike the new fighter builds that appeared in Martial Power and the like (Battlerager, Tempest) etc, they aren't listed as part of the Fighter class, but a whole separate class. Yet the powers are listed as Fighter Utility (with the level they gain them, or no level in the case of the 1st level At-will stances).
Now the questions?
Can a PHB Fighter choose an Essentials Utility power, that has a matching name?
What rule if any stops a Essentials Knight or Slayer from picking a Fighter Daily power as suggested by the Character Advancement table on page 29 of the PHB?
The way they classes are currently put into the compendium is also weird, the powers are written twice, individually in the power descriptions but also in the class description.
So for example Clearheaded Fighter Utility 10, is a power in its own right, but also listed in the Slayer class as one of the powers he can choose from at 10th level. It is not however listed in the Knight's class description, implying to me the Knight cannot choose this power.
Is this the case with Essentials classes their choices are locked down to just four possible options (using 10th level Utility as an example), so not only can they not use any previous 4th Ed Fighter utilities, they can't even use the Essentials Fighter Utilities of a different class? If so why did they call them Fighter Utilities and not Knight or Slayer Utilities?
I guess some of these questions are answered in the Essentials books, but I've not purchased them yet and I'm trying to gauge if they are even worth buying.
There are two new Fighter classes Knight (Defender) and Slayer (striker) in the first players Essentials book Heroes of the Fallen Lands. And now thanks to the Compendium update I can see them, but I still can't understand how they work.
Unlike the new fighter builds that appeared in Martial Power and the like (Battlerager, Tempest) etc, they aren't listed as part of the Fighter class, but a whole separate class. Yet the powers are listed as Fighter Utility (with the level they gain them, or no level in the case of the 1st level At-will stances).
Now the questions?
Can a PHB Fighter choose an Essentials Utility power, that has a matching name?
What rule if any stops a Essentials Knight or Slayer from picking a Fighter Daily power as suggested by the Character Advancement table on page 29 of the PHB?
The way they classes are currently put into the compendium is also weird, the powers are written twice, individually in the power descriptions but also in the class description.
So for example Clearheaded Fighter Utility 10, is a power in its own right, but also listed in the Slayer class as one of the powers he can choose from at 10th level. It is not however listed in the Knight's class description, implying to me the Knight cannot choose this power.
Is this the case with Essentials classes their choices are locked down to just four possible options (using 10th level Utility as an example), so not only can they not use any previous 4th Ed Fighter utilities, they can't even use the Essentials Fighter Utilities of a different class? If so why did they call them Fighter Utilities and not Knight or Slayer Utilities?
I guess some of these questions are answered in the Essentials books, but I've not purchased them yet and I'm trying to gauge if they are even worth buying.