Immunity to Illusions Question

[Wrathamon]

I am playing a Grimlock... and they are immune to illusions. Does the Grimlock know an illusion is up or if someone is invisible as if he automatically disbelieved the illusion?

THANKS!

 

[Hypersmurf]

I am playing a Grimlock... and they are immune to illusions. Does the Grimlock know an illusion is up or if someone is invisible as if he automatically disbelieved the illusion?

Grimlocks are blind. A visible person and an invisible person sound and smell identical - if you put one of each in front of him, and asked him to pick which one is invisible, the question would be meaningless to him. The grimlock won't even realise a Silent Image exists. A Minor Image - he won't be able to see the visual aspect (and so he's immune to that), but he'll still hear the sounds.

Remember, Grimlock's aren't 'immune to illusions', they're 'immune to illusions that rely on sight'.

-Hyp.

 

[lukelightning]

Time for a new spell: Displaced Smell+Sound: Acts as displacement to creatures that rely on scent, with the bonus effect that you can always blame your flatulance on someone else.

 

[TheGogmagog]

This does bring to mind some of the recent discussions of the effectiveness of certain illusions. I think the example was either Project Image or Major Image.

Project Image creates a shadow duplicate, does it duplicate scent and tremor effects? Would a wizard using major image be able to replicate the smell of an orc well enough to fool an animal with the scent ability, same for tremorsense or blindsense?

I'd begin by restricting the grimlock ability to spells that specifically note their limitation, then add other 'obvious' (subjective term) ones as they came up. To be honest though, my opinion on the aforementioned discussion probably isn't consistent.

 

[lukelightning]

Project Image creates a shadow duplicate, does it duplicate scent and tremor effects? Would a wizard using major image be able to replicate the smell of an orc well enough to fool an animal with the scent ability, same for tremorsense or blindsense?

From projected image: " The projected image looks, sounds, and smells like you but is intangible. "

And I'd say that yes, even if you don't have the scent ability your illusions can represent the smell of the creature correctly (the magic "fills in" what the caster doesn't know), but depending on your skill you might not get it right—which is represented by the DC of the spell.

 

[lukelightning]

The trouble with being a grimlock is that your senses are limited to 40'. An archer or mage could easily kite you....if they are attacking you from beyond your range in an open area you have little chance of getting to them; you might not even know where the attack is coming from.

 

[frankthedm]

The trouble with being a grimlock is that your senses are limited to 40'. An archer or mage could easily kite you....if they are attacking you from beyond your range in an open area you have little chance of getting to them; you might not even know where the attack is coming from.

The Fthiip! of an arrow can still be heard. And there is just about no way not to hear a verbal component short of being deaf. The grimlock can then run or double move in that direction. Efficent? No. But hardly helpless.