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[Piratecat]

Are you actually comparing the reasons people choose to be vegetarian to the reasons people choose one version of D&D over another? That the difference between 3E player and 4E is players is anywhere remotely as significant as the difference between vegetarian and carnivore?

Give it a rest, please. It's not anyone's job to change peoples' opinions, especially on something that they may feel very strongly about. We don't want this thread to become sidetracked.

Thank you.

 

[Princesskeyblade]

Or we could go with Bystander, Player, and Dungeon Master.

I actually REALLY like this. This is much better than the other names mentioned.

I will continue to support ENworld despite what the levels are called. However, whether or not it warrants a $6 membership fee is yet to be determined. Maybe revitalizing the site will draw me back in a bit.

I also love the idea of having a chat room with a dice roller.

 

[Morrus]

- slice and dice the forums to offer different views/dashboards: I'd love a widget to let me track all of Sep's or PC's rules-oriented-posts, for example (and while the tags do this a little bit, they rely on folks actually doing the tagging, and then knowing that the URL is still available; having a widget to show me a user's posts containing a specific keyword or whatever would be pretty cool)

I'll tell you what I'd love to be able to do - but vBulletin is several years off being able to do this yet: allowing users to drag the actual forums into the order they want, straight from the forum index page. Some blog software allows users to drag content boxes around. So you could literally customise EN World's forum priorities the way you want it.

But, like I said, the software is some years off that sort of functionality. It would be very cool, though.

 

[Wicht]

You, know, until this morning, reading this thread, I didn't even realize the experience point descriptors were 4e based. I guess I just don't know enough about 4e to realize that the goblin sharpshooter is really edition specific. But its general enough not to really bother me one way or another.

There's a careful balance that has to be walked when running a business, the balance between pleasing self and pleasing the most number of customers possible. If you're not happy with what you're doing, no matter how profitable, you will not enjoy your business. If not enough customers are happy, you will not have a profitable business. The naming of support tiers may seem minor, but if, rightly or wrongly, it turns enough people away, its detrimental to the business. I want Morrus to succeed and thus I chimed in that I thought the names were a mistake; just annoying enough to be irritating, though mildly so. People should not be called out for letting it be known that they think this to be a mistake. You never berate customers for complaining if you want to keep their business.

As for what I want from ENWorld. I want a place to talk about Dungeons and Dragons with a large community of like-minded, creative individuals. That's worth $3 a month from me. I'm really not sure what else I would pay for. Though the free downloads are a nice bonus, I would pay the $3 regardless (so long as I can) because I like the existence of the community.

 

[darjr]

The threads and forums in the new software are all exported to RSS with embeded links. A fancy RSS web based reader could probably be used to rearrange things to a great degree.

 

[Sammael]

You're already labeled as a Lvl 2 goblin sharpshooter. That's a 4E reference, and you've implicitly supported it with your subscription.

I've had goblin sharpshooters back in 1998, long before even 3e, much less 4e. That reference is edition-free.

 

[TheYeti1775]

Oh, my God. Really, people?
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Some people have stronger feelings than others about it. It isn't uncommon. Considering a good portion of folks that frequent this board are die-hard non-4E, you have to take that into consideration. Especially from Morrus's POV, he is turning the board from a donation supported enterprise into a business venture. Don't kid yourself into thinking otherwise. I'm happy it's self-supporting currently.

I'll tell you what I'd love to be able to do - but vBulletin is several years off being able to do this yet: allowing users to drag the actual forums into the order they want, straight from the forum index page. Some blog software allows users to drag content boxes around. So you could literally customise EN World's forum priorities the way you want it.

But, like I said, the software is some years off that sort of functionality. It would be very cool, though.

Would love that ability. As there are only a few I check on here anymore.


Far as naming the tiers.
Keep it simple. Don't use the 4E tiers.
BECMI is a good idea as well as the Bystander, Player, DM one.
I like the second as a better feel for it.

Far as the Experience naming and all. Can't that be controlled with Skins?
You could honestly create several Skins for all the users.
Examples:
4E - Fighter = All the experience is labeled as a 4E fighter name levels. Icons shown are swords and shields.
3E - Fighter = same as the 4E Fighter just using terms for 3E.
2E etc
1e etc
Can be done for each class generic.
These skins could also be the addition for the $$ tiers.
Also with skins I believe you can reorder the forums with them as well. You can't move them around but the order they appear can be changed. So a 3E player could have the 3E specific forums appear above the 4E and 2E/1E/BECMI forums.
Just keep a few basic skins for those of us that aren't paying you.

Play by Post Forums: Your Epic/Paragon/Whatever tier can have their own areas. Figure a way to have a dice roller for them to access.

I know chat rooms are possible with Vbull, I'm not sure if you can have multiple chat rooms though. Never looked into that. If each forum could have their own with archives I would bet many PbP'ers would jump on it for their games especially if there was a dice-roller.


Have a few other ideas rattling around, but I got some work to do right now.

 

[Morrus]

he is turning the board from a donation supported enterprise into a business venture. Don't kid yourself into thinking otherwise.

Has turned, not turning. I ain't exactly hiding it!

 

[Fifth Element]

People should not be called out for letting it be known that they think this to be a mistake. You never berate customers for complaining if you want to keep their business.

Very true, and note that Morrus and the admins are not berating anyone. It's only fellow customers doing that.

 

[BryonD]

Are you honestly suggesting that if Morrus wanted to name the tiers, I don't know, after 3E prestige classes and some 4E fan came on and said "I find that offensive! Stop it!" that he wouldn't be (quite rightly) called out by 3E fans?

I'm not even dishonestly suggesting it. I'm not suggesting it in any way at all.

I'm pointing out, as you also easily predict in your reply, that the shoe would fit just as poorly on the other foot.