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JediSoth
Voice Over Artist & Author
Just a few thoughts, in no particular order.
Removal of sigs is something I'm sort of "meh" about. I use my sig to identify my role in the community, not that many people really care. It's always bad form to suddenly start charging for something that we've always had, or even to start charging for functionality we used to have. But, in the end, it won't really change much for me. If I really, really want that information in my posts and I don't want to pony up $3/mo or $6/mo for the privilege (whatever it may end up being), then I can always cut & paste a few lines of boilerplate text into my posts if I feel the need. That's what I used to do in the old days.
I would probably use a Gamers Finding Gamers feature, though I'm not sure if I would pay for such a thing (I can name at least two websites that offer it for free and an additional two message boards that have forums for that purpose). I suppose it depends on the price point that feature were offered at. Free would be great. I would probably even pay $3/mo. for such a feature, assuming there was some way of finding out how many people were registered in my area before signing up.
I read the columns when I remember to, but my bookmark points straight to the forums so I usually skip the main page. I probably would not take advantage of anything like the War of Burning Sky; I have at least 6 full adventure paths I've yet to use, plus year and years of other materials for RPGs I can only dream of having time to take advantage of.
I care about the names for subscriber tiers, but not enough to not subscribe if I don't like them. I would just roll my eyes and go one with my life. Though, if asked for an opinion, I would vote for something leaning more generic (Red Shirt, Supporting Character, Protagonist
) and less towards specifically referencing a particular game (like Heroic, Paragon, and Epic, for example).
Skinning the site for subscribers is a cool idea. It's the kind of candy that entices customers. Especially if you have multiple skins allowing people to show support for games they like.
As far as the prices go, in addition to the monthly rate, it would be nice to have an option for paying for a year or more upfront. I hate the book keeping involved on my end to remember to deduct $3 a month from account. The people who aren't going to want to drop $36 or $60 at one time will continue to use the monthly recurring subscription option, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to pay it in a lump sum then not have to worry about it. It's perfectly acceptable to send out reminders when the subscription is going to expire. Maybe at 1 month, 2 weeks, the day it expires, then a week after it expires.
Of course, with my post-count to account-age ratio, I'm probably not the target audience here. I exist, a few people actually know who I am, but I'd wager most people here just see me as "Anonymous Poster #42." I missed the part where ENWorld went for-profit, but if Morrus wants to try to make a living running this website, more power to him. That makes us bona fide customers, though, rather than just participants in the community. That might not really change anything. It might change everything.
I just know one thing, it's hard to progress without change. And the good thing about most of the changes Morrus is suggestion or even thinking about: if they don't work out, he can always roll things back to the way they were and try something else.
Removal of sigs is something I'm sort of "meh" about. I use my sig to identify my role in the community, not that many people really care. It's always bad form to suddenly start charging for something that we've always had, or even to start charging for functionality we used to have. But, in the end, it won't really change much for me. If I really, really want that information in my posts and I don't want to pony up $3/mo or $6/mo for the privilege (whatever it may end up being), then I can always cut & paste a few lines of boilerplate text into my posts if I feel the need. That's what I used to do in the old days.
I would probably use a Gamers Finding Gamers feature, though I'm not sure if I would pay for such a thing (I can name at least two websites that offer it for free and an additional two message boards that have forums for that purpose). I suppose it depends on the price point that feature were offered at. Free would be great. I would probably even pay $3/mo. for such a feature, assuming there was some way of finding out how many people were registered in my area before signing up.
I read the columns when I remember to, but my bookmark points straight to the forums so I usually skip the main page. I probably would not take advantage of anything like the War of Burning Sky; I have at least 6 full adventure paths I've yet to use, plus year and years of other materials for RPGs I can only dream of having time to take advantage of.
I care about the names for subscriber tiers, but not enough to not subscribe if I don't like them. I would just roll my eyes and go one with my life. Though, if asked for an opinion, I would vote for something leaning more generic (Red Shirt, Supporting Character, Protagonist
) and less towards specifically referencing a particular game (like Heroic, Paragon, and Epic, for example).Skinning the site for subscribers is a cool idea. It's the kind of candy that entices customers. Especially if you have multiple skins allowing people to show support for games they like.
As far as the prices go, in addition to the monthly rate, it would be nice to have an option for paying for a year or more upfront. I hate the book keeping involved on my end to remember to deduct $3 a month from account. The people who aren't going to want to drop $36 or $60 at one time will continue to use the monthly recurring subscription option, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to pay it in a lump sum then not have to worry about it. It's perfectly acceptable to send out reminders when the subscription is going to expire. Maybe at 1 month, 2 weeks, the day it expires, then a week after it expires.
Of course, with my post-count to account-age ratio, I'm probably not the target audience here. I exist, a few people actually know who I am, but I'd wager most people here just see me as "Anonymous Poster #42." I missed the part where ENWorld went for-profit, but if Morrus wants to try to make a living running this website, more power to him. That makes us bona fide customers, though, rather than just participants in the community. That might not really change anything. It might change everything.
I just know one thing, it's hard to progress without change. And the good thing about most of the changes Morrus is suggestion or even thinking about: if they don't work out, he can always roll things back to the way they were and try something else.
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I've said it a few times now, but yes GsG will be free. The concept only works well if you include as many people as possible - a GsG with a couple of thousand people worldwide on it would be next to useless. A GsG with EN World's entire user base on it would be an order of magnitude more populated than similar systems on other websites. It's strength really comes from the size of the database of users.
JediSoth
Voice Over Artist & Author
I thought I read that some where; it's starting to get hard to remember what all I've read in this thread. I should have made it clear I was speaking hypothetically when talking about charges for a feature like GsG.
tuxgeo
Adventurer
Aha! Looking back through this very thread, I see that user "Mark" is a 9th-Level "Bloodfire Harpy," though he hasn't mentioned that in-thread.10 - Dragonborn Gladiator
I don't know what 9 is, though. I'm gonna give Nifft some XP and let's find out!
I think the level names are fun. I don't mind that they're tied to 4e. It's really not worth mentioning for me.
Mark
CreativeMountainGames.com
I guess I just attained that today. I was 8th-level last I looked. I guess I can fly despite the elevated temperature of my hemoglobin.
Mark
CreativeMountainGames.com
Subscription levels renamed Copper and Silver.
XP levels all renamed to avoid 4E. I am now an owlbear.
Will now take instructions on what to rename my dog.
You're better than an owlbear, mister.
*edit* Weird. When I gave you an XP, your "owlbear" title disappeared then when I posted this, it came back.
*edit two* Oh, and name your dog "Morrus" or "Guvnor."
DaveMage
Slumbering in Tsar
Will now take instructions on what to rename my dog.
"Tiamat" if female, "Bahamut" if male.
Nifft
Penguin Herder
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