I have a question about those, actually. I've never used either of them (but I think I'm planning on it soon), so I wanted a clarification. Are the extra effective levels counted for purposes of Destroying/Controlling rather than Turning/Rebuking? For example, if you're 6th level and have a Phylactery of Undead Turning (which lets you Turn as if you were 10th level), would you be able to Destroy a Zombie with 5 HD, or do the extra effective levels only for purposes of Turning Checks and Turning Damage?