Invigorating Powers?

Lhorgrim

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I'm in the middle of moving to a new house, and my "Martial Powers" book is in a box somewhere.

I tried looking this up on Compendium, but didn't find the answer.

When a power has the keyword "invigorating", what is the effect?
 

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Correction to above:

If you are trained in Endurance, and you -hit- with an attack from an Invigorating power, you gain temporary hps equal to your con mod. You can only gain temphps from an Invigorating power once per turn, regardless of how many times you may hit with that power. No, this has nothing to do with stacking rules for temp-hp, and no, battlerager vigor does not allow you to work around this.

If you miss with an Invigorating power, you get nothing.
 

Correction to above:

If you are trained in Endurance, and you -hit- with an attack from an Invigorating power, you gain temporary hps equal to your con mod. You can only gain temphps from an Invigorating power once per turn, regardless of how many times you may hit with that power. No, this has nothing to do with stacking rules for temp-hp, and no, battlerager vigor does not allow you to work around this.

It has everything to do with stacking for temp-hp. I quote from page 6 of martial power:

'When you gain temporary hit points by hitting with an attack that has the invigorating keyword, those temporary hit points STACK with any other temporary hit points you already have.'

Greetings,
 

No, because you never get them.

PHBII p 220:

Invigorating
If you are trained in Endurance, you gain temporary
hit points equal to your Constitution modifier when
you hit with a power that has the invigorating keyword.
No invigorating power grants temporary hit
points more than once during a turn, even if you hit
more than once with that power.


If the power never grants the hit points, you have nothing to stack. Thank you.
 

No, because you never get them.

PHBII p 220:

Invigorating
If you are trained in Endurance, you gain temporary
hit points equal to your Constitution modifier when
you hit with a power that has the invigorating keyword.
No invigorating power grants temporary hit
points more than once during a turn, even if you hit
more than once with that power.


If the power never grants the hit points, you have nothing to stack. Thank you.

You are misreading that. It is true that during a turn you can only benefit from the invigorating temporary hit points once. But lets say that you started your turn with temporary hit points already. In that case when you hit with a power that has the invigorating keyword for the first time you will get ADDITIONAL temporary hit points. i.e. they will stack with the temporary hit points that you already have.

Greetings,
 

I assure you, I am not misreading the text.

My statement, which you have disputed, was that an Invigorating power only gives you temporary hps once, and that has nothing to do with the rules for stacking temporary hit points. You disputed that, saying it does. I pointed out the rule that explicitly states my point. You are now mentioning an irrelevant case.

The point is, and always has been, that you only get one batch of invigorating temp hp per power per turn, and that battlerager vigor does not change that. Multiple turns or multiple powers is not relevant nor pertinent to that statement.
 

I assure you, I am not misreading the text.

My statement, which you have disputed, was that an Invigorating power only gives you temporary hps once, and that has nothing to do with the rules for stacking temporary hit points. You disputed that, saying it does. I pointed out the rule that explicitly states my point. You are now mentioning an irrelevant case.

Ok, I think we have a language misunderstanding :-)

I wasn't disputing what you said now. I was disputing that invigorating has nothing to do with stacking of temporary HP. I thought it was that that you were saying.

So basically we were talking about different things.

Greetings,
 

Thanks for the info guys.

I thought it had something to do with temp HP, but I couldn't remember the details without my book.

Can't wait to finish moving!
 

Ok, I think we have a language misunderstanding :-)

I wasn't disputing what you said now. I was disputing that invigorating has nothing to do with stacking of temporary HP. I thought it was that that you were saying.

So basically we were talking about different things.

Greetings,

Okay, it's cool.
 

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