Invisible Blade (CW) and Bleeding Wound

[Legildur]

The Bleeding Wound (Ex) ability gained at 2nd level by an Invisible Blade (p46 Complete Warrior) states that "...choose to deal a bleeding wound, sacrificing 1d6 points of the extra damage from the dagger sneak attack... Thereafter, the wound caused .... bleeds for 1 point of damage per round..."

My reading of the ability description is that the Invisible Blade cannot sacrifice more than 1d6 of sneak attack damage on any one attack. That is, if for example the IB had +4d6 dagger sneak attack damage per attack, then they cannot sacrifice all 4d6 to create a 4 point/round bleeding wound. Is this the correct interpretation?

 

[shilsen]

Correct. The description of the ability explicitly says that you are sacrificing "1d6 points" and the wound caused "bleeds for 1 point of damage per round". That's all you can do, though you can continue to do it round after round (if possible) and increase the cumulative blood loss.

 

[Legildur]

...That's all you can do, though you can continue to do it round after round (if possible) and increase the cumulative blood loss.

I'm actually helping a friend build a Svirfneblin based IB. He got some freakish rolls from E-tools and is looking like going Rog4/Mnk1/IB3 (not your traditional route I know). The monk level is mainly for the AC bonus from a ridiculous Wisdom (AC 28 without any magical items or armor) and the great saves. But, using the two-weapon fighting route, he could potentially pull off 3 bleeding wounds in one round (and live long enough to get out the following round).

 

[Orm]

Does Bleeding Wound stack with Arterial Strike? So that you can forgo 2d6 for 2 points of damage per round?
Add in Hamstring to slow the baddies down.

Orm

 

[Legildur]

The last sentence from the Arterial Strike feat (p96 CW) states that "You may deliver only one bleeding wound per successful sneak attack."

So my interpretation would be no as that sentence probably applies to all bleeding wounds. (I only found that feat after asking my original question)

 

[drnuncheon]

Isn't it a bit strange that they changed all the other 'wounding' stuff in 3.5 to Con damage, but forgot this one?

J

 

[Orm]

<sigh> no bleeding(x2) wounds. Should have been clear, as with all named bonuses. But can you combine Arterial Strike with Hamstring? They are different bonuses.

Isn't it a bit strange that they changed all the other 'wounding' stuff in 3.5 to Con damage, but forgot this one?

J

Use a wounding weapon for making bleeding wounds for CON damage and hp damage.

 

[azmodean]

bleeding is not a bonus or penalty, so the rules concerning stacking do not apply, it's like saying damage of the same type doesn't stack.

I'm pretty sure the intent is to allow multiple bleeding wounds per target, it doesn't really say one way or the other in the RAW.

 

[Legildur]

Sorry Orm,

I wasn't that clear in my interpretation (it was late).

I meant that Arterial Strike and the IB's Bleeding Wound ability wouldn't stack on the same attack. But sure, you could inflict several such wounds at the rate of 1 per successful sneak attack and they would stack.

 

[Diirk]

I'm actually helping a friend build a Svirfneblin based IB. He got some freakish rolls from E-tools and is looking like going Rog4/Mnk1/IB3 (not your traditional route I know). The monk level is mainly for the AC bonus from a ridiculous Wisdom (AC 28 without any magical items or armor) and the great saves. But, using the two-weapon fighting route, he could potentially pull off 3 bleeding wounds in one round (and live long enough to get out the following round).

Well, 4-5 actually... BAB is +6 so its normally +6/+1 for 2 attacks... TWF is +4/+4/-1.. ITWF for +4/+4/-1/-1... and flurry with kukris for +2/+2/+2/-3/-3 ! (+ relevant ability modifiers, magic items, weapon focus etc)

Could be quite deadly

Mind you bleeding wound is only really worth it if the target lives more than 3 rounds anyway, and if you're getting that many sneak attacks I don't think it will...