(IR) 2nd ooc-thread of the 5th IR (open)

[Anabstercorian]

I'm not entirely sure what it sprang from, either - for the sake of all our sanity, I'll avoid speculation. Not gonna let this squish our IR, though - I like how this game is setting up so far. Shame about this thing.

I'll pass my opinion on this sooner or later, but, eh, not until tomorrow. Maybe by then this will have settled down a bit. As I see it, we've got four options:

1) Toss out Player A.
2) Toss out Player B.
3) Toss out Player A AND B.

Those all suck.

4) Delay the game until Player A and Player B calm down, with maybe some arbitration between them.

That's a bit of a bummer, but it doesn't suck as much.

5) Just ignore the problem and let Player A and B resolve it between themselves.

I suspect this would default to either solution 1, 2, or 3.

So, y'know, let's give it time then come back to this issue.

 

[The Forsaken One]

Why are you threatening the IR and Creamsteak in particular?

When you throw a ball you can expect it to bounce back. Some people need to think about stuff before they say it.

And since I haven't been insulting you, but the weird and frankly rules-broken way you seem to be intent on looking at your faction...

FYI That is a part of me.

Look, here's how it stands:

Here goes! *drums*

You're acting like a jerk.

I intended to.

I might be coming off like a jerk, but I haven't resorted to profanity or really even questioned your apparently perfect understanding of the rules other than to point out some things that I don't think you get, still don't think you get,

I thought I proved to interesting things about yourself and the rules. So just curious to how you judge if someone knows the rules if you don't know them yourself.

and you retort with insults and profanity and rants. I'm not intending to act like a jerk, I'm trying to curb what I see as a huge heaping pile of excess that's being tried to be plopped down in the IR for the benefit of a single player.

There's nothing wrong imho with trying out the bounderies of what is allowed.

So, if I'm coming across as a jerk I didn't mean it,

Try thinking before posting next time.

but you sir, are most definitely trying and accomplishing coming across like a jerk.

Good.

So, I'm back to square one. You go or I do. Pick and choose. I don't like you and I won't participate in a game with someone whose response to criticism and comment is to retort with profanity (no matter how blurbed out) and general bad attitude.

Glad to see you handle a situation you got yourself into this well. Be glad it's just internet where you can click all your problems away. I'm amazed you don't even care to reflect upon the way you expressed your "comments and criticism". Our feelings here are mutual, except for the going part. I'm not intending to go anywhere. I'm planning to just settle this ingame.

I don't care about the faction anymore, since you've decided to make this a personal issue then I have no choice but to view it as one.

Thats rather weak and again short sighted and getting the easy way out. You always have a choice.

I don't have time for forums that can devolve into personal insults and profanity and I certainly don't have time for people engage in those activities.

Then shut up about other people, and ignore them for the rest. Another internet luxury you can permit yourself. Or if you're so iffed about this, you be the bigger man, I don't care that much.

but I don't have to stand for this level of rudeness and I won't.

Good, me too. Except I intend to deal with it and not high tail away from it.

Good day.

Bubye and all that.

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You can hate your factions as much as you like, it's pretty much fine since you can actualy go to war with each other to settle the matter.

Agreed.

And honsetly if someone does not trust that the DM is up to run the game he should not play. No amout of complaining will make a game a worthwile experience if you do not think the DM is fair.

Agreed.

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Good lord. THAT was fast.

^_^

yep, just realized what a waste of time my posts have been since it's been way too late anyway.
*sigh* I really don't think any of this was neccesary.

It never is.

I'm not entirely sure what it sprang from, either - for the sake of all our sanity, I'll avoid speculation. Not gonna let this squish our IR, though - I like how this game is setting up so far. Shame about this thing.

I'll pass my opinion on this sooner or later, but, eh, not until tomorrow. Maybe by then this will have settled down a bit. As I see it, we've got four options:

1) Toss out Player A.
2) Toss out Player B.
3) Toss out Player A AND B.

Those all suck.

4) Delay the game until Player A and Player B calm down, with maybe some arbitration between them.

That's a bit of a bummer, but it doesn't suck as much.

5) Just ignore the problem and let Player A and B resolve it between themselves.

I suspect this would default to either solution 1, 2, or 3.

So, y'know, let's give it time then come back to this issue.

Not my game so I'll just let it be up to the judge. I'm fully aware of my actions and I'll take full responsibility for them.

 

[Anabstercorian]

Okay, I'll pass judgement now.

Forsaken One, you're making a huge douche of yourself and if you were in my house I'd make you leave. You should apologize to James.

Admittedly James shouldn't have made those veiled insults about his opinion of your faction, but you're being an order of magnitude more tacky and rude than him.

You're not a bad player, and I don't want you to leave the game - the Ethergaunt are cool. But the above stands.

 

[The Forsaken One]

Forsaken One, you're making a huge douche of yourself and if you were in my house I'd make you leave.

Understandable, I'd do the same.

You should apologize to James.

When hell freezes over. Which might actually not be too long from now... and don't present me with that bash.org quote if hell is endothermic or exothermic

Admittedly James shouldn't have made those veiled insults about his opinion of your faction, but you're being an order of magnitude more tacky and rude than him.

I just play my cards in the open, instead of veiling them. Well, at least they were veiling in my opinion. And the rudeness level was a deliberate one.

You're not a bad player, and I don't want you to leave the game - the Ethergaunt are cool. But the above stands.

Good thing you're not the one giving the final call here then

 

[Eluvan]

Okay... you're both getting way too worked up, and potentially ruining this for everybody else. Calm down, please, for crying out loud. James, to be making ultimatums like that is ridiculous. TFO, to be deliberately fanning the flames is similarly stupid.

I don't understand why you both seem determined to bring this to a head, or why you both (yes, both) felt the need to make it personal and insulting. James; so you don't like the way his faction was headed. Okay. But it would have been more sensible to bring that up privately with Serpenteye rather than publicly attacking TFO over it. And yes, it definitely was an attack. It was not a reasoned argument intended to balance the game, it was a personal attack.

But... TFO, your response to it was petty and immature. And saying 'I meant to be petty and immature' does not excuse it. You're not just resolving your private issues with TFO in the way you see fit. You're making a mess in what is not just your game by any stretch of the imagination. Okay, I can see why you might be annoyed at James. But what do you have against the rest of us?

Both of you need to sit down and discuss this like adults, with no name-calling or weighted comments. TFO's faction will not be overpowered. That can be counted upon. So, James, why do you feel the need to criticize it? If you don't like the style, that's okay, because you won't be playing the faction. And TFO, why do you feel the need to escalate this argument until it blows up the whole game? Again, admitting that you're acting like a jerk is no kind of an excuse.

 

[James Heard]

Okay... you're both getting way too worked up, and potentially ruining this for everybody else.

Now that's a good point... ok. I tell you what everyone, in the interest of resolving this as quickly and as purely as possible I'm quitting. I don't want to play in the game enough to deal with TFO and I don't want to bring anyone else down. Please remove me from the roster and all information I wrote ok? I'll try this out in another IR after TFO's offended grandma enough that he's not an issue and I'll have a lot of things to bring to the game already wrote up (and maybe I'll write more one day- this is is the first time in a long time I've had any interest at all in Greyhawk). So anyways, it's better that this get over with than get resolved in my favor. So good gaming everyone and have a great time!

 

[Anabstercorian]

And once again, THAT was fast.

 

[The Forsaken One]

But... TFO, your response to it was petty and immature. And saying 'I meant to be petty and immature' does not excuse it.

It was never ment as an excuse, I'm not excusing anything as posted above.

You're not just resolving your private issues with TFO in the way you see fit.

I have issues with myself yes but I think you mean James

You're making a mess in what is not just your game by any stretch of the imagination.

Since when did I claim it was that.

Okay, I can see why you might be annoyed at James. But what do you have against the rest of us?

The rest of us? Where did that come from?

I mensioned 4, but they fired their cannons at me 3 pages ago I believe and this was just a stabbity move back at some piqued "inquires" made then.

Both of you need to sit down and discuss this like adults,

Which I'm not for arguments sake, but I know I know... no excuse T_t.

And TFO, why do you feel the need to escalate this argument until it blows up the whole game?

If it blows up the whole game thats because you all start taking stuff personally that's between James and me. Else I can see no possible way that I blow up this game. And theres always the easy way to boot me from it.

Again, admitting that you're acting like a jerk is no kind of an excuse.

Admitting that you are doesn't mean it's an excuse, and if it was an attempt to, it'd be a petty and weak one at that.

So anyways, it's better that this get over with than get resolved in my favor.

Thanks for proving my point.

So good gaming everyone and have a great time!

And thanks ·.·

 

[The Forsaken One]

And once again, THAT was fast.

Yup ^_^

[edit: hmm boards sped up again. I'm off to bed, will see SE's judgement in the morning. And most likely an extended commentary by Edena and Creamsteak /edit]

 

[Anabstercorian]

I expect Edena to be absolutely appalled, from what I know of him. I don't know what Creamsteak will do, but fortunately, I have this slime-proof coat in case he starts to foam at the mouth with rage.