Iron Lore: Malhavoc's Surprise?

[Krug]

Looks like this thread needs to be changed to Iron Heroes.

 

[Staffan]

My guess is they'll just hand wave it away. At level X your attacks count as magical for purposes of Damage Reduction. But, I could be off, that just seems the easiest way to handle it.

I distinctly recall Mearls mentioning somewhere, possibly in this very thread, that "Sure, I could have just said that Xth level characters count as magic for penetrating DR. But that would be cheap, so I didn't. What did I do? You'll have to wait and see."

 

[JohnSnow]

Yup, as I quoted above (look up a few posts).

I was wrong though, it's on page 4, not page 5. Original post is now edited.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Andor]

My theory is one at character creation and then one feat at every even level.

Bonus feats are in addition to the feat a character gets at every even-numbered level.

The even level feat progression is pretty settled.

 

[JohnSnow]

Wow...how'd we all overlook that one? I thought I'd gleened every speck from those previews.

Well, except the ones that didn't make sense. That reminds me. In light of this new feat mastery info, I need to go back and look at Mike's WAR picture ramble to dissect it for new, now pertinent, info.

Be back soon.

 

[Irda Ranger]

Wow...how'd we all overlook that one? I thought I'd gleened every speck from those previews.

What's with this "we" business, Capt. Obvious?

 

[Wulf Ratbane]

BIG ANNOUCEMENT - They have changed the name.

Iron Lore is now "Iron Heroes"
http://www.montecook.com/cgi-bin/page.cgi?mpress_IL_PR2

I wonder if this means I should change the title of my Mythic Heroes book...

Man, I like Iron Lore so much better as Iron Heroes. Good, good change-- whatever the reason.

 

[Andor]

I wonder if this means I should change the title of my Mythic Heroes book...

Man, I like Iron Lore so much better as Iron Heroes. Good, good change-- whatever the reason.

Obviously you should now change it to Mythic Lore. Duh.

 

[Irda Ranger]

Defense
Finesse (weapon subtype)
Lore
Power (weapon subtype)
Projectile (weapon subtype)
Tactics

It might be fun to guess based on the classes.

Arcanist - Lore, ???
Archer - Projectile*, Defense*, Finesse*
Armiger - Defense, Power, Tactics
Berserker - Power*, Weapon, Stunts
Executioner - ???
Harrier - Finesse, Stunts, Defense
Hunter - Tactics*, Lore*, Weapon*
Man-at-Arms - Everything at moderate
Thief - Stunts, The Voice, Lore
Weapon Master - Weapon, Tactics, ???

* - of course, these are the only ones we're sure of. Everything else is a guess.

One of the questions is, what group would Quick Draw go in? The Beserker has it 6th level, which means it could be from anywhere, if he took it at 6th.

 

[Dr. Strangemonkey]

One of the questions is, what group would Quick Draw go in? The Beserker has it 6th level, which means it could be from anywhere, if he took it at 6th.

Quick Draw has to have a level 1 or level 0 mastery requirement. I think it's pretty likely he needs to have that final feat in order to get the third powerattack at the requisite mastery level. Recall that Power-attack has mastery level 0 and then we know its nine elaborations range from 2-10 so we know the Berzerker has Power Attack 0, 2, and 3.

BTW, Power Attack has to be among the most elaborated feats. A Master of Power Attack would have spent a huge percentage of his feats on that one trick. Of course if the three levels of Power Attack the Berzerker has are any indication you get a lot of flexibility with that one trick.

Euugh, now I have an image of berserker performing card tricks by hitting a deck with an axe.

'All right, what card hit you in the face? Was it a jack of spades?'

One question though, if you absolutely can only get one feat at first level then why have a +1 and +2 mastery rating at first level? Wouldn't it be a no brainer that you would go for the +2 mastery feat?