Is it going to happen?

[LightPhoenix]

Plus, it isn't like 4e, where you would want to reconsider your habits if you knew the date. Nothing you do depends on the date, so why should we set expectations on it? It'll be here when it is ready, and not a moment before.

As others have said, I don't think it's an impatience for the new site. It's that certain things that are broken aren't being fixed while ENW2 is in development. I know that Michael Morris is if not the only coder, one of only a few (and don't neglect your family MM!) so that puts you guys in a bind. If you take the time to fix subscriptions, or the review system (broken for how long now Crothian?) that delays the rollout of the new site and spends resources on something that will just be replaced. Eventually you have to devote 100% of the available resources to getting the new site rolling. It's a catch-22.

Anyway, I don't think it's a frustration with the rate of progress, I think it's a frustration with systems breaking down, and being told not only that they're not being worked on, but that you have no clue when the new site is coming out. It's understandable that you can't give a release date (something VG companies learned long ago ), but it's frustrating for the users, and probably the administration as well, at the same time.

 

[Bront]

It's the "Are we there yet?" syndrome.

Trust us, you'll know when it shows up

 

[buzz]

Anyway, I don't think it's a frustration with the rate of progress, I think it's a frustration with systems breaking down, and being told not only that they're not being worked on, but that you have no clue when the new site is coming out. It's understandable that you can't give a release date (something VG companies learned long ago ), but it's frustrating for the users, and probably the administration as well, at the same time.

:raises hand:

I admit, as a Community Supporter, ENWorld Gameday organizer, and someone who's donated money every time there was a fundraising drive, I'm a little honked off someone can't just look at line 58 of subscription.php and figure out what's wrong. I honestly had totally forgotten about ENW 2 until this issue came up, and I wasn't even aware of the timeline. I just know that my primary interface for using ENWorld is gone, and apparently isn't coming back anytime soon. As a "customer" of ENWorld, I feel sort of shafted.

That said, I understand that ENWorld is essentially a grassroots community thing, and there's only so many hours in the day, and so many available resources. Not to mention, my life isn't going to end because I can't use a gaming website.

That said, as someone on the web team of a Fortune 500 company that recently did a major upgrade of their site, our stockholders would have shot us if we'd refused to fix functionality on our old site in anticipation of the new site's arrival. Especially given how many delays we experienced in launching it.

So, I feel for ya, ENWorld, but I'm also a little let down.

 

[Michael Morris]

In any Fortune 500 company worth its salt each branch of the code has it's own programming team. And the problem in subscription.php isn't a single line of code.

 

[thalmin]

Well, good luck with the upgrade. Don't anyone get hit by a truck. And don't let the coding spoil your holidays.
(I still hope we're almost there! )

 

[Blackrat]

I would so like to ask "are we there yet?", but instead I'll just say take your time, remember to relax too and do let us know when there is anything to tell .

 

[buzz]

In any Fortune 500 company worth its salt each branch of the code has it's own programming team.

My company is worth its salt. Ergo, yes, I realize we have far more resources than ENWorld. I was just conveying my perspective.

And the problem in subscription.php isn't a single line of code.

If that implies you guys already assessed the problem, that at least makes me feel better. Like I said above, I empathize; I just had some disappointment, too.

So, I'll wait. Good luck and godspeed.

 

[Thornir Alekeg]

I intend to spend as much time as my family allows curled up in front of a computer working on this - but no promises on how much progress will be made in that time.

Well, I hope you take as much time as you need to enjoy the holidays with your family. Thanks for your effort on this.

 

[Mistwell]

I say follow this procedure:

1) Give an entirely random estimate of when it will be done that is far enough in the future to reduce the number of times this question is asked until that date;
2) If it isn't done by the estimate date, repeat step one.

What, it works for a lot of software companies, why can't it work here?

(As for all the hard work being put into the new site, I say Go On My Son! Your hard work is/will be appreciated by the masses).

 

[Erekose13]

I'll admit I'm super eager to see EN2 and miss some of the functionality but it just heightens the anticipation Take you time MM and the rest of the team. Have a Happy Hannukah and a Merry Christmas!