Is it "wrong" to not like other systems?

[Belen]

Eh, they're not that bad really. Although they do certainly lean towards games like Risus and Exalted as a community instead of d20. However, you definitely owe it to yourself to read this thread at least once in your life. Me, I have to pull it out every few monthes and relive the memories.

You fool, man! I had almost rid my brain of that drivel. How could you do it, Man? How? HOW?

I, now, must suck my thumb...nose firmly implanted in a corner.

 

[Henry]

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Hey Diaglo, what's it liking being an afficiando of old DnD? I mean, did you ever try the new systems, or were you just content enough that there was no point in changing? Just curious.

I have to unveil this for benefit of recent members: Diaglo is a D&D junkie, no matter the addition. Ask him how many copies of the later inferior editions he has, how many miniatures, both plastic and metal, he has stored away, and how many copies of the recent D&D for Dummies books he purchased. His heart belongs to the (O) D&D he first learned, but if he and his fellow players are to be believed, the man also owns more 3E paraphenalia than MY GAMING GROUP, COMBINED.

 

[Belen]

To the original poster: Nope. There is nothing wrong with preferring one system above all others. The only system I will play these days are d20 based. If it ain't d20, then I will not play it. Why should I go to the trouble of learning a new system or spending money when one system will do everything I like?

One d20 to rule them all, One d20 to find them
One d20 to bring them all and in the darkness bind
them In the land of ENWorld where Eric's grandma lies.

 

[diaglo]

the man also owns more 3E paraphenalia than MY GAMING GROUP, COMBINED.

and i was the second highest bidder on Morrus's collection when it went up for sale on ebay.

but he still wouldn't sell it to me. edit: when the highest bidder defaulted.

 

[Belen]

I have to unveil this for benefit of recent members: Diaglo is a D&D junkie, no matter the addition. Ask him how many copies of the later inferior editions he has, how many miniatures, both plastic and metal, he has stored away, and how many copies of the recent D&D for Dummies books he purchased. His heart belongs to the (O) D&D he first learned, but if he and his fellow players are to be believed, the man also owns more 3E paraphenalia than MY GAMING GROUP, COMBINED.

I so own him on 3e paraphenalia. I cannot even find places to hide it from the coppers no more.

Oh...wait....

I never said that.

 

[Akrasia]

... Although they do certainly lean towards games like Risus and Exalted as a community instead of d20. ....

WFRP is definitely a new favourite, and Unisystem is a constant presence as well.
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But back to the thread topic -- one of the reasons why many non-d20 folks resent d20 is the perception that (many/some) d20 fans think that d20 'can do anything', and the fact that many fine non-d20 systems were 'd20-ized' during the beginning of the new 'd20 era' (e.g. Deadlands is often cited as the worst offender here). In contrast, advocates of non-d20 systems rarely make similar claims about their systems. That is, there is sometimes the perception that d20 is 'colonizing' and trying to take over the RPG field, and that its advocates herald it as the "One True System".

Since the d20 market deflated somewhat last year, and other great non-d20 games are starting to appear again (e.g. WFRP), this source of contention seems to be fading away.

 

[Greatwyrm]

Well, there's nothing wrong about just having an opinion. You've seen other stuff and like d20 better. So what? I've read, played, and/or owned dozens of different systems over the years. I've basically come to the point where I like d20 and HERO better than pretty much everything else. I don't think that's anything to feel bad about.

 

[Ibram]

Only Communists like Non-d20 systems... your not a communist? Are you?

 

[nakia]

Eh, they're not that bad really. Although they do certainly lean towards games like Risus and Exalted as a community instead of d20. However, you definitely owe it to yourself to read this thread at least once in your life. Me, I have to pull it out every few monthes and relive the memories.

I just got back from reading the first 15 pages from that thread. I felt sort of like a tourist, visiting the site of something's birth. Like that feeling you get seeing the Declaration of Independence in the National Archives -- "WOW. That's where it all began. . ."

and I like RISUS, too!

 

[Belen]

WFRP is definitely a new favourite, and Unisystem is a constant presence as well.
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But back to the thread topic -- one of the reasons why many non-d20 folks resent d20 is the perception that (many/some) d20 fans think that d20 'can do anything', and the fact that many fine non-d20 systems were 'd20-ized' during the beginning of the new 'd20 era' (e.g. Deadlands is often cited as the worst offender here). In contrast, advocates of non-d20 systems rarely make similar claims about their systems. That is, there is sometimes the perception that d20 is 'colonizing' and trying to take over the RPG field, and that its advocates herald it as the "One True System".

Since the d20 market deflated somewhat last year, and other great non-d20 games are starting to appear again (e.g. WFRP), this source of contention seems to be fading away.

I have yet to see something that d20 cannot do. I have seen bad representations of d20 by companies that barely understood it, but nothing that the system cannot handle.

Now, I am not saying that other systems do not have aspects that are superior to similar aspects in d20. What I am saying is that no other system makes for an across the board general system that can handle multiple genres. That is the strength of d20.

Most of the detractors of d20 are gamer elites who are far more into "real" roleplaying and who laud diceless or classless systems as the ultimate of RPGs.

I am the first to point out that D&D 3e has flaws and could be imporved upon, but I think that d20 may be the best all-purpose system ever created.