Pathfinder 1E Is PAIZO becoming the next Wizards?


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Personally I run modified 3.5 and 4e and the only Paizo products I buy are their wonderful flip-mats, but I'm really glad to see them doing well and I wish them well.
 

Because this stuff is just a thinly veiled flag waving contest between fans of different companies.


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It's always gratifying when the posters on ENWorld still take a few pages to stop firing off comments and realign their thoughts after the owner of a game company makes a few quiet posts on the subject. :) I appreciate Lisa Stevens' posts (and Erik Mona's posting restraint, too.)

There really are few valid comparisons between a publicly traded manfuacturer of games and toys to the mass market and book trade, and a privately owned niche hobby games publisher. This is so even if the hobby games publisher is a seemingly burgeoning and successful enterprise (as judged by the standards of the hobby games trade).

Having had the opportunity to meet both Lisa Stevens and Erik Mona at past Gencons, I'm happy and pleased that they are enjoying success in making products that many of us here want to buy and are proud of owning.
 
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Perhaps a better comparison than WotC, would be the late 1970's era TSR before (A)D&D became very popular in the mainstream pop culture.

It remains to be seen whether lightning will strike twice, in Paizo replicating the huge success of early-mid 1980's TSR.

At the present time, I don't see anything offhand which would indicate that Paizo would be able to replicate or exceed the success of early-mid 1980's TSR . There would have to be significant penetration of Pathfinder into the mainstream pop culture of the early 2010's.

EDIT: One possible way would be if the upcoming Pathfinder novels are very popular amongst the kids who grew up reading Harry Potter. Though the flipside of novels becoming extremely popular, is that the company may possibly change their business plan and concentrate more on publishing new novels than on new Pathfinder rpg game stuff. More novels being written brings in more canon and fleshes out more details of the Golarion campaign setting world. It may very well end up becoming like another very detailed and "canon heavy" Forgotten Realms type setting. Canon clashes become more probable, especially if the editors become too lax. It would be a huge nightmare writing for highly detailed world setting, which requires an encyclopedic knowledge of the details and canon.
 
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I wonder if they could end up as "hated" in some circles as WotC, or Games Workshop or similar companies. This usually seems to come with the territory of being succesful and market leaders, but maybe Paizo's marketing and business decision can avoid that? Or they can't get there because they won't become market leaders in the first place?

I think Paizo has very securely found themselves in a position where some groups openly hate them. Heck, just look through this thread! If that's not enough, there's always GitP and Rpg.net!

And if GitP hating you isn't a sign of success, I don;t know what is :lol:
 


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