Is The Forum Getting More Antagonistic?

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Gradine

Final Form (she/they)
To be fair I think it's really easy to look at the growing antagonism across the internet over the past decade or so as a tragic and unnecessary escalation; at least, it's easy to think that when "People like you shouldn't exist" isn't seen as a valid and reasonable personal and/or political stance.

My theory is that these are the growing pains that come with social progress; when specific bigotries are no longer unspoken and assumed they must become debated in the public space, which I think a lot of people directly impacted by said bigotries are going to have some understandable acrimony about.

The goalposts and battlefields will continue to shift, and every social niche will their own battlefields to occupy. The thing is, when the niche gets really specific, the battlefields of choice tend to appear completely unrelated to any broader social movement, but I've found in many cases that the lines in the sand and the folx in the trenches become remarkably similar.

tl;dr Damage on a miss is a proxy war originating from the broader culture wars flaring up over the relatively swift (by historical standards) social progress happening in many liberal democracies.


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SakanaSensei

Adventurer
To be fair I think it's really easy to look at the growing antagonism across the internet over the past decade or so as a tragic and unnecessary escalation; at least, it's easy to think that when "People like you shouldn't exist" isn't seen as a valid and reasonable personal and/or political stance.

My theory is that these are the growing pains that come with social progress; when specific bigotries are no longer unspoken and assumed they must become debated in the public space, which I think a lot of people directly impacted by said bigotries are going to have some understandable acrimony about.

The goalposts and battlefields will continue to shift, and every social niche will their own battlefields to occupy. The thing is, when the niche gets really specific, the battlefields of choice tend to appear completely unrelated to any broader social movement, but I've found in many cases that the lines in the sand and the folx in the trenches become remarkably similar.

tl;dr Damage on a miss is a proxy war originating from the broader culture wars flaring up over the relatively swift (by historical standards) social progress happening in many liberal democracies.


Thanks for attending my TED Talk

Forum rules being what they are, it's hard to really get into this, but I have seen connections between people who post certain stances on game topics and opinions on various other, non-game things like shows in ways that have made me go "huh, is this related?" But the human brain is also really good at finding connections where there are none, so it's entirely possible it's my monkey brain doing me a confusion.
 

Gradine

Final Form (she/they)
Forum rules being what they are, it's hard to really get into this, but I have seen connections between people who post certain stances on game topics and opinions on various other, non-game things like shows in ways that have made me go "huh, is this related?" But the human brain is also really good at finding connections where there are none, so it's entirely possible it's my monkey brain doing me a confusion.
Tribalism is never a coincidence.
 

Whizbang Dustyboots

100% that gnome
My theory is that these are the growing pains that come with social progress; when specific bigotries are no longer unspoken and assumed they must become debated in the public space, which I think a lot of people directly impacted by said bigotries are going to have some understandable acrimony about.
Hmmm. This is the first optimistic take I've ever seen on polarization. It's a thought-provoking idea, if nothing else.
 



Micah Sweet

Legend
I don't see post numbers shifting due to people I've ignored, but maybe they shift if somebody has ignored me.
If someone who has ignored you posts, their post# is skipped and you have a gap. Trust me, the two I'm pretty sure of post in the same threads as me all the time.
 





TheSword

Legend
As a general rule I don’t block people for what they say. I block them for how they say it. Usually posting exhaustively and continually - particularly when they respond to a 6 line comment by dismantling each line with a 10 line rebuttal. Discussing things with people that way is very tiring. Equally frustrating is where people address 20 different posters with their one post, quoting each one individually in some super essay.

Brevity is the soul of wit, I want to read what you think - not an amicus brief. I sometimes wonder whether a word limit would be a good thing and as was suggested earlier - a maximum number of posts per thread per day while not good for the site would definitely make people think harder about what they said.

Aside from that, say what you want, I probably won’t ignore you. Plurality is important and generally a good thing. People should be allowed to hold different opinions about the game without being rugby tackled. With the caveat that politics and religion should be ruled out in entirety. Even when game related. Sure it might be relevant and interesting but you can’t include it without the antagonism forming.
 

Gradine

Final Form (she/they)
As a general rule I don’t block people for what they say. I block them for how they say it. Usually posting exhaustively and continually - particularly when they respond to a 6 line comment by dismantling each line with a 10 line rebuttal. Discussing things with people that way is very tiring. Equally frustrating is where people address 20 different posters with their one post, quoting each one individually in some super essay.
Stop subtweeting
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:p

I typically don't block people unless they (a) sealion (or engage some other form of intellectually dishonest threadcrapping) and (b) indicating, either explicitly or implicitly, that what they think about people like myself is quite derogatory.

Poster titles that mock pronouns
are kind of a dead giveaway 🤫
 

TheSword

Legend
Stop subtweeting
<redacted>
:p

I typically don't block people unless they (a) sealion (or engage some other form of intellectually dishonest threadcrapping) and (b) indicating, either explicitly or implicitly, that what they think about people like myself is quite derogatory.

Poster titles that mock pronouns
are kind of a dead giveaway 🤫
I’ll be honest that has gone over my head. I don’t understand. I certainly hope I aren’t intellectually dishonestly threadcrapping, or implying anything.
 
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Whizbang Dustyboots

100% that gnome
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