You are using the Healer's kit. I'm not arguing against that. What I am arguing is that you aren't using the "Use an Object" action and you don't need a free hand.Right and if you cast a spell which expends material components you are using those material components. It's just specifically stated you use them simultaneous with the spell casting. " A character can use a component pouch..." "A spellcaster must have a hand free to access a spell's material components...but it can be the same hand that he or she uses to perform somatic components."
I am not claiming it's some other action. The opposite in fact. The feat is allowing you to do something special with the same action you'd normally use the Healer's Kit. It's part of that action - in this case a bonus action. You're using the kit though. Just as you are using the material components. It's obvious you're using the kit - it says directly you spend a use to tend the creature.
I'll ask again, do you apply a similar rule to other things which spend a use of a limited resource? If something says you can spend a bardic inspiration to do X, are you not using bardic inspiration? If it says spend a use of Channel Divinity to do X, are you not using Channel Divinity?
You're not using the healer's kit, though.
You are using the Healer's kit. I'm not arguing against that.
I'm saying that you're using a charge from the Healer's kit and therefore "using" it but you're not using the feature in the Healer's kit description.Pick a position man.
As for arrows, that's because the arrow has a specific rule under ammunition and loading. Otherwise it would be a use an object. In this case, Healers Kit remains a use an object action. Because it's not ammunition.
So we just necro a thread from 4 years ago and do not notice?
Not broken. The only thing in 5E that is broken is the Rod of Seven Parts. And that is only because it is not officially in 5E. And if it was, it would be broken into 7 parts.
I'm saying that you're using a charge from the Healer's kit and therefore "using" it but you're not using the feature in the Healer's kit description.
Healer, the feat, gives you a new action that expends a healer's kit.
Casting a spell from a scroll uses the Cast a Spell action and destroys the spell, but you're not using the "Use an Item" action. There's specific wording in spell scroll uses, as there are with the Healer feat.
One is using the Healer's kit description. The other is using the Healer's feat description. Two separate sources using the same type of charge.As @TaranTheWanderer pointed out, it's the IDENTICAL language between the Healer feat and the Healer's Kit tool text. They both say, "As an action, you can expend one use of the kit to... " and the Fast Hands feat does in fact work to change the action to a bonus action for the kit, so why wouldn't it work the same way for the feat with the identical language?
One is using the Healer's kit description. The other is using the Healer's feat description. Two separate sources using the same type of charge.