Is the hospitaleer from 'Defenders of the Faith' worded wrong...or just broken??

[Storyteller01]

From memory, the DotF Hospitaler broke the PrC rule: "Don't balance mechanical advantages with roleplaying penalties".

I don't have the book in front of me, but isn't the Hospitaler pretty much supposed to hang out at a temple or shrine his whole life and defend it, or guard caravans of pilgrims? Which makes for a fairly boring PC.

Either the DM has lots of adventures that happen to coincide with guarding a caravan of pilgrims... or those responsibilities are handwaved away.

Either way, the disadvantage becomes unimportant, while the mechanical advantages of the class remain undiminished.

And that's where the imbalance comes in.

-Hyp.

If I'm not mistaken (not that this helps much) the Hospitaleer either has to stay and protect a temple or church, or protect those on a pilgrimage. Players could tweak this (the group IS on a religious pilgramage... they just don't know it yet.)

 

[Storyteller01]

Halfling Outrider?

A Dragonstar Combat Pilot on their motorcycle >[)

 

[ThirdWizard]

Wasn't there a dragon rider type PrC in Draconimacon?

Now that's a mount.

 

[mikebr99]

Or the Shaaryan Hunter PrC in PGtF.

Mike

 

[Bauglir]

Windrider?

 

[Elephant]

The only WotC published PrC I know of, from an earlier thread, is the Windrider. And the Purple Dragon Knight, which I do not care for, especially since it's campaign specific.

So adjust the Purple Dragon Knight to be a Red Knight of Twirlyland, instead. If the mechanics of the class don't cause a problem in your campaign, what does the name matter?

Besides, weren't PrCs supposed to be for adding flavor, not a clearinghouse for the latest munchkin ideas out of wotc?

 

[The Souljourner]

Always use the 3.5 version if it exists in both 3.0 and 3.5. 3.0 had a lot of stupid crap.

-The Souljourner

 

[Lonely Tylenol]

Riding PrC

I wrote up a valkyrie PrC for a campaign world once. It was intended for barbarians, so no Lawful prerequisites there. Pretty nifty abilities too. They were essentially a PrC of pegasus riders, so they got some fun abilities like being able to leap from the saddle at fairly high altitudes without taking damage when they hit the ground. They functioned like flying viking paratroopers that swooped down over villages and then lept from their mounts, crashing to the ground, axes swinging. Fearsome, if you're a peasant.

 

[Storyteller01]

Always use the 3.5 version if it exists in both 3.0 and 3.5. 3.0 had a lot of stupid crap.

I don't know...

That whole business of 'Small Longswords' seems a bit redundant.
Isn't that anothewr way of saying 'short sword'?

 

[Liquidsabre]

I don't know...

That whole business of 'Small Longswords' seems a bit redundant.
Isn't that anothewr way of saying 'short sword'?

It's all about the balance of the weapon for it's use by the wielder. In this case a small longsword is not balanced for use the same ways as a short sword. Simple as that.

Imagine trying to fight effectively with your little brother's small wooden sword as opposed to an adult-sized wooden dagger. There'll be a difference. In the case of crafted weapons it is noticeable enough to effect the weapon's use.