Is the Slayer PrC overpowered?

[Nightfall]

Unless they can start blasting the crap out of monsters with SR/PR and ignore those ones, I'm not seeing a lot of power.

 

[seans23]

psionics scare me.
GET OUT OF MY BRAIN

 

[Nightfall]

They don't scare me.

 

[moritheil]

The SRD Slayer PrC has very easy requisites, and only loses 1 manifester level, in exchange for full BAB, 1d8 hit points and proficiency and martial weapons and all armor.(plus the special abilities, but IMo they are minor in comparison), turning it into a very very efective gish (sp?) build. Since the benefit is much greater than the cost, it´s overpowered.

Gish builds are consistently decried as something that can't be done efficiently in 3.5. Without exaggeration, there are probably thousands of posts on the web about how horrible classes such as EK are. Now that you claim a PrC offers it, you say it's broken?

Which way is it?

 

[superkurt13]

So to those who think it is overpowered, how is it any different than the Illthid Slayer in XPH? The look identical

 

[moritheil]

So to those who think it is overpowered, how is it any different than the Illthid Slayer in XPH? The look identical

Exactly what I've been asking - my understanding is that they are the same class, one with all mention of illithids removed.

 

[pawsplay]

nice blanket statement.

Well, their BAB is fine.

Basically, you've got an EK, with easier entrance requirements, that gains abilities. One of those abilities is immunity to mind-affecting abilities. Oh, yeah, and they can't be detected.

Even if they never met an illithid in their entire life, they would be overpowered.

 

[Crothian]

Not being able to be detected, while it can be cool can also be a power that never matters in a campaign. The track feat is also something that would probablty be a wasted feat or else it sucks skill points to make it kinda useful. While it might be better then EK, that's not exactly a class that people respect. So, yes it is more powerful then a crappy class, but not overpowered.

 

[pawsplay]

Not being able to be detected, while it can be cool can also be a power that never matters in a campaign. The track feat is also something that would probablty be a wasted feat or else it sucks skill points to make it kinda useful. While it might be better then EK, that's not exactly a class that people respect. So, yes it is more powerful then a crappy class, but not overpowered.

So I guess you're not in the "OMG full BAB full caster!!!" crowd. That's okay.

Not being able to be detected is a fantastic ability. I can hardly imagine a campaign in which it does not matter. Further, other means of achieving this result can be overcome by a caster level check, for the most part.

You're dissing on Track. Ok.

I notice you didn't address the immunity to mind-affecting abilities. I can't think of any other way to practically attain that ability other than becoming an undead.

I guess "people" may not think the EK is a good class. I don't think it's crappy. Maybe I'm woefully stupid.

 

[Crothian]

So I guess you're not in the "OMG full BAB full caster!!!" crowd. That's okay.

Well, it isn't full caster they lose a level of it and that is not unsignificant. Casters also need to be able to take advantage of a full BAB. They can go with that focus but that changes things for them. Also with the 4 BAB requirement the character either has already sacrificed BAB to get all psion levels or they sacrifice psion levels to qualify better faster BAB. And I don't see any of the other psionic bases classes being as powerful as a psion with the 9 levels of manifesting levels.

Not being able to be detected is a fantastic ability. I can hardly imagine a campaign in which it does not matter. Further, other means of achieving this result can be overcome by a caster level check, for the most part.

Great, Bob can't be detected. But Frank, and Jodie, and Sam, and Bill can.

You're dissing on Track. Ok.

For this character I am. It isn't a feat caster types usually take and it does require Survival to make use of and they only get 4 skill points a level.

It is a fine class, but far from overpowered.