D&D (2024) Is There A New Sheriff in Town?

[Theory of Games]

It’s more likely that the collapse of Hasbro would bring down D&D (as a tabletop game) than external competition.

Or, a shift of direction. Say, if HasBro decided to turn D&D into more of a digital product and explored D&D as IP cash-cow, putting the trad game on the back burner.

You can't be number one without getting the scandals of number one and I don't think the people over there want that.

Sure you can. Look at the great success Valve has had in video games - all without significant controversy.

 

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Sure you can. Look at the great success Valve has had in video games - all without significant controversy

Valve barely is a game dev.

And no scandals and controversy from Valve? Valve is basically NO-OGL WOTC for PC video games.

 

[mamba]

Or, a shift of direction. Say, if HasBro decided to turn D&D into more of a digital product and explored D&D as IP cash-cow, putting the trad game on the back burner.

When you look at what WotC / Hasbro invested in the last years, the trad game is already on the back burner

 

[Theory of Games]

When you look at what WotC / Hasbro invested in the last years, the trad game is already on the back burner

Valve barely is a game dev.

And no scandals and controversy from Valve? Valve is basically NO-OGL WOTC for game

Well. I forget that what some call "scandal", others recognize as "business as usual". And I think Darrington Press would love to have WizBro's problems

 

[Minigiant]

Well. I forget that what some call "scandal", others recognize as "business as usual". And I think Darrington Press would love to have WizBro's problems

That's my point most of wizards scandals is just regular business so Darrington Press becomes the number one number two or number three ttrpg company then it too will commit the same scandals and controversies that Wizards has.

 

[Theory of Games]

That's my point most of wizards scandals is just regular business so Darrington Press becomes the number one number two or number three ttrpg company then it too will commit the same scandals and controversies that Wizards has.

Yeah but - at the end of the day, who cares about the "scandals"? Are they even really scandals (other than the OGL fiasco)? Businesses gonna busy, right? The key here is getting some innovative ttrpg design that transforms the hobby's power structure. It's been FIFTY years with D&D. I'm ready for a major shift and I think many of my fellow gamers feel the same.

The sun don't rise and set on D&D.

 

[Minigiant]

Yeah but - at the end of the day, who cares about the "scandals"? Are they even really scandals (other than the OGL fiasco)? Businesses gonna busy, right? The key here is getting some innovative ttrpg design that transforms the hobby's power structure. It's been FIFTY years with D&D. I'm ready for a major shift and I think many of my fellow gamers feel the same.

The sun don't rise and set on D&D.

This community really complains loudly about standard corporate scandals.

 

[Theory of Games]

This community really complains loudly about standard corporate scandals.

Yeah but complaint without action is like a car with no engine - nothing positive happens. I thought the OGL fiasco would (surely) activate the community into an official unified boycott of WotC product.

So. I just want to see newer, better ttrpgs at the top.

 

[DEFCON 1]

Yeah but - at the end of the day, who cares about the "scandals"? Are they even really scandals (other than the OGL fiasco)? Businesses gonna busy, right? The key here is getting some innovative ttrpg design that transforms the hobby's power structure. It's been FIFTY years with D&D. I'm ready for a major shift and I think many of my fellow gamers feel the same.

The sun don't rise and set on D&D.

Yes it does.

We've had 50 years of the roleplaying game being a genre unto itself, and 50 years of changes, adaptations, and advancements. Both in the tabletop sphere and the computer sphere. Innovation has happened again and again and again over all that time. Heck, the whole concept of 'narrative RPGs' was a massive innovation that no one back in the 1970s would have conceived of, because back then the game was still just an extension of miniature wargames. The 'roleplaying game' has already transformed itself countless times over these past 5 decades, so whatever it is you think or hope is going to happen... there will not be this "massive shift" that changes everything in the genre all at once. And rather than expect it or wait for it... a person would be better off spending time looking at the history of the roleplaying game and seeing the detail in the innovations and transformations we've already had over these 50 years and appreciate that which has already happened.

One does that... then they can get what they want right now and they don't have to waste time caring that Dungeons & Dragons is still the most popular roleplaying game there is, or that for the billions of people across the globe who don't actually play or care... its name has become the genericized term for 'roleplaying game'. And that's why it will never be anything less than the top of the genre.

We have all the innovation we could possibly need in RPGs already. We just need to go looking for it.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Yeah but complaint without action is like a car with no engine - nothing positive happens. I thought the OGL fiasco would (surely) activate the community into an official unified boycott of WotC product.

So. I just want to see newer, better ttrpgs at the top.

I just want the top to be much, much closer to the middle.