Is there no love for d20 modern?

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[The Shaman]

WHy do people keep asking if D20 Modern is 3.5 compatible?

I believe a number of gamers want to import spells, monsters, races, and sometimes classes from Dungeons and Dragons and other fantasy games into their Modern games.

Aside from the fact that some skills and feats are different, I think the biggest issues are DR, SR, and CR.

 

[HeapThaumaturgist]

Word to the Dyal.

Modern is a bit more of a paradigm shift than some people are willing to handle. The basic classes are pretty radical (but very very cool, IMHO). I find them a much superior balance between strict archetypal classes and too-exploitable point buy systems.

The Wealth system seems to send some people jumping through high-rise windows to avoid it, but, again IMHO, it's just behind the base classes in terms of elegant genius.

Magic ... well ... yea. I see why they went with D&Disms there, and they're USABLE ... but I prefer something else.

Which is why I've been working on some of my own products using a skills'n'feats based system with a distinctly thematic "tradition"-based focus. Currently I have SFX Skills: Diabolism complete, and am working on SFX Skills: Enochian Theurgy when I'm not on the forums.

Dunno. I think I have to admit that Modern maybe had a problem, not in how things work, but in presentation. So many people just run screaming for the hills before they figure out how things are supposed to work ... maybe some more examples of building concepts in the PC creation section ... a more detailed expo on Wealth mechanics. Something.

--fje

 

[The Shaman]

Modern is a bit more of a paradigm shift than some people are willing to handle. The basic classes are pretty radical (but very very cool, IMHO). I find them a much superior balance between strict archetypal classes and too-exploitable point buy systems.

The Wealth system seems to send some people jumping through high-rise windows to avoid it, but, again IMHO, it's just behind the base classes in terms of elegant genius.

Well-said.

I think I have to admit that Modern maybe had a problem, not in how things work, but in presentation. So many people just run screaming for the hills before they figure out how things are supposed to work ... maybe some more examples of building concepts in the PC creation section ... a more detailed expo on Wealth mechanics. Something.

Could it be perhaps that most people picking up d20 Modern expect it to be "just like" Dungeons and Dragons, or nearly so, without realizing that it's a distinct take on d20?

 

[Ranger REG]

Well-said.Could it be perhaps that most people picking up d20 Modern expect it to be "just like" Dungeons and Dragons, or nearly so, without realizing that it's a distinct take on d20?

Hehehe.

So there are people that want d20 Modern to be D&D compatible.

Oh, talk about an identity crisis if poor d20 Modern could talk.

"What must I do to make you love me?!?!!!"

Hehehe.

 

[Neo]

I really like D20 Modern, the basic classes are appealing.. my only personal gripe with it is the Wealth system, not because it doesnt necessarily work but just because "Another Test" type of mechanic in order to buy anything just doesnt appeal to me at all.

Its also less inspiring in play Your employer offers to pay you £10,000 if you do the little job for him.. increase wealth a point or two //...ugh.. I like my characters cash to be just that amounts a can track and spend at will without checks needed (other than to locate items). Just personal preference.. as i say wealth system works it just doesn't float my personal boat.

 

[C. Baize]

Howdy, Neo.
Haven't been by your site in an age... Anything new and exciting there?

Honestly, of any of the workarounds, the wealth is the easiest to simply convert into dollars/pounds/Euros/rubles/pesos/yen/whatever the currency is in the country your game is set in.

 

[Peterson]

I gotta go with Heap here. Once I understood it, I have had encountered no difficulties with the Wealth mechanic. In fact, I find it a better route to take when handling money-issues in game. Its faster, and it allows for things that I - personally - don't have the brain power to figure out on my own (savings accounts, stock portfolios, etc).

However, I will be the first to admit that it took me a bit to really grasp the mechanic. I was always putting it down in my games, and at times - even threw it out and went with a "scrap paper account" (which is where you spend 30 minutes every other gaming session and determine how much money your various income sources have made, how much taxes got taken out, etc).

Anyway, I've gotta say this. I - personally - think d20 Modern is one of the tightest systems I've played under, if not the tightest. Yes, it has a few flaws, but then again - every system has them. Regardless, d20 Modern does what I want it to do 90% of the time, and when it doesn't - well, that's what 3rd party support and house rules are for.

Just my thoughts.

Peterson

 

[Neo]

Howdy, Neo.
Haven't been by your site in an age... Anything new and exciting there?

Honestly, of any of the workarounds, the wealth is the easiest to simply convert into dollars/pounds/Euros/rubles/pesos/yen/whatever the currency is in the country your game is set in.

Heya C.

My site hasn't been updated for a few months for a few reasons.. but should be at some point once i find the time. The site did undergo a re-design a while back though in order to make navigating it a bit friendlier.

With regards to wealth as I say it isnt that the system doesnt work..its just that kind of system for handling currency just doesnt appeal to me.. I like to know how many pounds, dollars or yen etc... I own and spend.. making checks to buy things just doesnt appeal to me personally. Wealth is the only aspect of D20 Modern that doesnt appeal though the rest I've found very good

I really enjoyed the D20 Future supplement also although the ship system is good on some levels the vast number of hit points for ships and bucket of dice approach for ship weapons isnt quite as appealing or fluid as say Mongooses starship system used in thier WARS rpg, but the rest of future was pure gold.

 

[Ranger REG]

I really like D20 Modern, the basic classes are appealing.. my only personal gripe with it is the Wealth system, not because it doesnt necessarily work but just because "Another Test" type of mechanic in order to buy anything just doesnt appeal to me at all.

Its also less inspiring in play Your employer offers to pay you £10,000 if you do the little job for him.. increase wealth a point or two //...ugh.. I like my characters cash to be just that amounts a can track and spend at will without checks needed (other than to locate items). Just personal preference.. as i say wealth system works it just doesn't float my personal boat.

Meh. You'll have to keep track of (plurally) income, accounts, bills & expense, credit & debit cards financial portfolios (stocks & bonds), etc., unless the DM wouldn't mind being burden with your finance (e.g., deduct upkeep from your total cash award) and just give you petty cash award to fill your wallet ... literally.