Is there such a thing as an undead troll???

[Dryfus]

As I stated earlier, I made a Trol/Wizard/Vampire. But he was a mistake(he was a wizards apprentice who got caught in the middle of an unfortunate miscasting of a nasty summoning spell), he became a troll and a vampire, but retained his casting ability and his regen abilities, plus the strength of the troll. But being a magially created being, I just ignored the no con no regen thing. (it fit with the campagin/adventure) Also pointing out that as a GM you can create anything that is counter to the books, it may take some imagination to make it credible to the PC's, but it is possible. (After they killed him they found his diary, and found out he was a magically created entity, and was angry at humanity(read humans/elves/dwarves/hobbits...ect.) but that was a condition of whom his master was trying to summon(a powerful demon lord that hates humanity) and he found out that his "disease" was transfered to any creature that he bit(much like a vampire), but it also polied them into a troll. he was trying to make a race of them to attack the human lads)

Just my 2 cents

 

[boolean]

Vampires have Fast Healing, not Regeneration.

 

[Yeoman]

Atropals have regeneration.

Indeed they do. Regeneration 20 I think.

 

[Caliban]

For real fun, use a half undead troll.


Dragon #313 had several "half-undead" templates, to represent still living creatures who had taken on traits of a certain type of undead. Many of them are based on european mythology.

The half-zombie template makes you immune to non-lethal damage...

 

[GrayLinnorm]

Dragon #199 had a gray troll, a troll who was completely energy drained, but was brought back (with added powers) by its regeneration ability. It wasn't undead though.

The Tome of Horrors has a Spectral Troll template (based on a 2e creature).

 

[Shin Okada]

There was a skeletal troll model in D&D Chainmail line.

Maybe that troll has been drown, or slain by a death effect.

 

[FreeTheSlaves]

A philosopher might argue, that raising/resurrecting a dead person puts them into a state of living undeath. It's certainly not natural.

I'm not a philosopher.

Bye
Thanee

Good point, you know I might just define myself as an amateur philosopher for laughs & giggles.

 

[glass]

For real fun, use a half undead troll. Dragon #313 had several "half-undead" templates, to represent still living creatures who had taken on traits of a certain type of undead. Many of them are based on european mythology.

The half-zombie template makes you immune to non-lethal damage...

AFAIAC, any circumstance of anything immune to non-lethal damage having regeneration is best solved by simply saying that creatures can still have damage converted to non-lethal, even if they can't have it inflicted on them directly.

This is probably a house rule, but it's not totally without precedent. Liches can polymorph themselves, despite being immune to polymorph.


glass.

 

[Rkhet]

This isn't regeneration, but it is possibly better: Zodars are immune to everything except blunt weapons. A Master Transmogrifist Shapechanging into a Zodar and getting blunt weapon immunity with Infinite Variety is immune to all damage.

Only problem is MDJ.

 

[AuraSeer]

Zodars are immune to everything except blunt weapons.

What book does that come from? Weapon immunity and percentage reduction were supposed to go away in 3.5, to be subsumed into the new DR system. (Instead of being immune to all but blunt weapons, the monster should instead have a high DR X/blunt.) The combo you describe illustrates the reason; blanket immunity makes it too easy to create a monster that's impossible to kill.