iSlate/iPad/iTablet?

There is effectively nothing the new iPad does that an iPhone... doesn't already do.

Except for the fact that it has on the order of 8x the screen real estate.

Well that's not the complete picture. It has greater processing power and higher resolution. It runs iWorks (or whatever the Apple product is called) whereas the iPhone does not. It offers cheap pay-as-you-go 3G access directly from the product [no phone calls needed].

It's not as powerful as a netbook; it's not as flexible as a Windows Mobile phone. As Steve Jobs said, it's all about a market between those devices -a media consumption device with a supremely pretty and smooth interface, with the corresponding disadvantage that your customisation options are limited unless you jailbreak it.

For me, it works - I don't need or want a laptop/netbook. If I wanted a laptop or netbook I'd have bought one - I've had them in the past. I would like a media consumption device of this size and using this interface. It fits my lifestyle just fine - I try using my iPhone for stuff and wish it were a bit bigger, a bit more powerful, and a bit more flexible, with a certain level of portability and simplicity. That's basically what this is.

It's not gonna appeal to everyone. It appeals to me, and will appeal to people like me. I see it as an interactive newspaper/novel/web device - a window on the web, albeit a really pretty easily consumable one.
 

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It'll be "we've sold 10,000,000 units".

They're not selling a tabet PC - they're selling a user interface. One should never mistake what Apple is actually selling. The iPhone is beaten by dozens of phones in terms of flexibility and power - but still outsells them because of its interface.

Quite simply, in answer to you question - I AM the "tech-unsavvy Mr. Consumer" and my reply to you is: "It's purty. I want it."

It's easy to adopt the cynical tech-savvy POV. Everyone did with the iPod and the iPhone. And they were wrong - they sold 75 million of the things. I don't think there's any mileage in trying to outguess Apple's marketing experts and predict dire failure; it'll sell, and we all know it will.
Apple has certainly had marketing failures in the past. How's your Apple TV and Mac Mini working out for you? Yeah, me neither. If you're just laying out that much money for things that are just "purty" without much regard for its actual feature set, then you are not "Mr. Consumer". A consumer pays that kind of money for an HDTV, but they know what they get for it and what they're going to do with it. They didn't pay what the industry wanted for Blu-Ray players OTOH; they had to come down quite a bit before consumer demand tilted in their favor. Portraying the average consumer as carefree with their money is a bad characterization.

The iPad won't bellyflop the way Apple TV did, but I don't think it will "own the market" or "lay waste to the competition". That's a little over-the-top. Mega-success is not a fait accompli. Any assertion that it is seems to be based on little other than a hype machine and a (falsely) perception that consumers are commited to buying shiny baubles. Personally, I was actually harboring very high hopes tinged with a dread of a $1000 kiss of death pricetag. It's priced to appeal in at least some markets, but it's no replacement for a netbook, nor is it the all-purpose device I (among others) was fantasizing about. Basically, if Mr. Consumer was in the market for a device along the lines of an iPod Touch or Kindle, he'd now have another product to consider, rather than a hands-down no-brainer.

I want to touch upon the "everyone was cynical about the iPod and iPhone" remark, because it raises an eyebrow. The iPod and iPhone did not succeed in spite of the "tech crowd", they succeeded because of'em. Techies love Apple The iPod and iPhone were highly-rated-and-reviewed award-winning devices thanks to an innovative knockout combo of both the UI and hardware. The app store was a real watershed.

I still hope to find that killer feature that I overlooked or got bad intel on. I am a fan of Apple, and the simple truth is I don't see in what way, shape, or form this supplements anything I do to the extent that I need it to, which is in large part due to the iPhone I use constantly. I even have lousy eyesight, which would make the big screen more useful for play GTA:CW...but I need something more.

Currently, my research is to see if I can tether my iPhone to one. And I gotta hope Steel is right about the Safari browser getting some much-needed refinement; for one thing, I would really love to read Marvel's digital comics on it (maybe Marvel will put out an app).
 
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Right, because Apple has never had a failure, right? How's your Apple TV and Mac Mini working out for you?

Well, OK. I don't think Apple are reading this forum for advice on their long-term business plans, and I have no emotional investment in their success or failure, so I'm probably not the target audience for this advice. I'm not trying to sell you one - that's Steve Job's job!

All I can say with any degree of certainty is that this particular product appeals to me, whereas I was barely aware of the other examples you cited. Whether that's a data point or not, I don't know - but it doesn't affect my own purchasing decisions.

I'm not 100% going to buy one. And I honestly don't mind if you don't buy one. :)

I would really love to read Marvel's digital comics on it (maybe Marvel will put out an app).

DC and Marvel releasing their comics on it is the thing that would make it a 100% instant sell for me. I hope against hope that will happen! :)
 

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How's your Apple TV and Mac Mini working out for you?

Doing just fine. The Mac Mini is in the basement, acting as a movie server and internet station for my projection TV. My AppleTV is hooked up to the main TV in the living room. Even my 6-year olds know how to find their favorite movies and they can't drop them on the floor or scratch them. Granted, as an Apple user since 1979 and current owner of 10 Macs (I have 7 kids), I'm a tad biased.

I'll be buying an iPad or two, simply to send Apple the message that I want the technology to be developed further. It's the perfect choice for the classroom, reading DRAGON in the throne room, or use as an electronic journal.
 


Holy crap! I didn't know about that!

Now, for me - I don't buy comics. I stopped over 20 years ago. I buy graphic novels and compilations, though.

The way to get me buying actual comics again - and I know I would buy them - is for DC and Marvel to adopt the New York Times model that was previewed at the iPad event. The latest comics should be available in the iBook Store immediately. I would buy them. Hell, if there were an automated subscription option, I'd sign up without hesitation.

Otherwise - I guess I'll keep buying the graphic novels and compilations.
 


If their track record is anything to go by, it'll be nothing new, and significantly overpriced.

So, no. Not really. :)

I was thinking the same thing, but $500 sounds reasonable for this thing. However it's Apple, so this is pretty much how I feel about it:

It sounds ok, but three BIG reasons I won't be jumping on bandwagon: no card slots/expandable memory, no removable battery, and as Felon mentioned, no flash support. I'll wait for the windows 7 pads

If this tablet is successful, I suspect Microsoft will come up with a competing product. And it will likely be less proprietary as well. I'd say cheaper, but Apple kind of made that argument weak with this product. Apple fans will of course complain that MS has no originality and will point out the iPad is more reliable and less prone to malware, and then in the next breath bitch that there's no apps for it and all the software in the tablet market is Windows exclusive.

It might be pretty, but it seems like you're stuck with the iPad Steve Jobs wants you to buy. The battery dies? He doesn't want you to replace it, he just wants to you buy a new iPad. If I had a decent photo editing program, I'd Photoshop Job's head and two iPads onto a picture of Moses coming down from Sinai to demonstrate how I feel the really die hard Apple fans are reacting to this. ;)

When it comes to Apple, I admit that I'm generally with Felon on the cynical side. Their products may be good and more or less reliable, but Apple is very proprietary, and Steve Jobs just annoys the hell out of me.
 
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When it comes to Apple, I admit that I'm generally with Felon on the cynical side. Their products may be good and more or less reliable, but Apple is very proprietary, and Steve Jobs just annoys the hell out of me.
I'm not cynical, I'm skeptical. My reaction was to Steel's "home run" and "laying waste" comments was "slow down" because it's kind of over-the-top.

Trying to offer an alternative to netbooks with a device that's running a phone's OS should evoke skepticism. When you hear Jobs boldly saying things like "you can change your homepage" or "you can watch Youtube" and calling them "phenonenal", is anyone here really impressed? Surey they'e phenomenal...on a phone....a year or two ago. I love ya, Steve, but I ain't drinkin' this Kool-Aid unless you can cough up that killer feature I need.

I've read confirmation that the data plan is tied specifically to the iPad, even if you have an iPhone. So, an extra $130, plus a monthly data plan, and after all of that outlay we'll likely be getting hit with the iPhone's 10MB download cap.

No camera, btw, so it actually lacks one of the big iPhone/iPod features.

CNet provided a lot of great coverage and commentary:
http://cnettv.cnet.com/9776-19709_53-0.html?tag=ctvNav;mainMenu
If you look at episode 1153, the first half is live commentary during the show, and the second is post-announcement.
 
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Holy crap! I didn't know about that!

Now, for me - I don't buy comics. I stopped over 20 years ago. I buy graphic novels and compilations, though.

The way to get me buying actual comics again - and I know I would buy them - is for DC and Marvel to adopt the New York Times model that was previewed at the iPad event. The latest comics should be available in the iBook Store immediately. I would buy them. Hell, if there were an automated subscription option, I'd sign up without hesitation.

Otherwise - I guess I'll keep buying the graphic novels and compilations.
Yeah, everyone's moving in the TPB direction. DIgital will come eventually, and slate fever will probably accelerate its evolution.

But mind you, in the immediate future we will be able to read MDU on those Windows 7 slates I was talking about before. No app needed, just a browser.
 
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