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Jemals school of hard knocks

The entire party is now together in the Arena.

Andor, if you wish to write yourself in at this point, feel free. I'm going to say that Lionel was in an earlier group that came in the day before, but didn't get along too well with his 'tour group' and so is out wandering by himself. He knows as much about the school as the current party does, including whatever info you can remember from the OOC thread. ;)

As far as knowledge skill goes - You can pick any knowledge skill you want, but I'd prefer no switching right off the bat. If your character's focus/outlook changes later on, then that would be ok, but not within the first few months. Also there are many ways of learning things that are outside of the normal rules, if you attend the right classes you might just learn those skills anyways.
 

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Oh, an Evil Knight.. This will be fun :) I got so disappointed when i read some posts on the WOTC boards, on how underpowered and useless the Knight and Dragon Shaman classes are, and how better even plain vanilla Clerics were due to their overpowered spells. Well i think we will be having fun, so what do they know :D
 


Oh, an Evil Knight.. This will be fun :) I got so disappointed when i read some posts on the WOTC boards, on how underpowered and useless the Knight and Dragon Shaman classes are, and how better even plain vanilla Clerics were due to their overpowered spells. Well i think we will be having fun, so what do they know :D

Every class is underpowered compared to the cleric (using the cheesey DMM), but this game isn't about being the strongest, fastest, DPR-king (for most people). It's an RP game, if you want to beat the game, head over to the XBOX or whatever. D&D has always been (for me) about playing interesting heroes who are going on adventures and having fun, not about outshining my allies or being the king of the damage by cheese-fests.

Sorry for my rant, I just really dislike how people dismiss classes as useless unless they can hit for 20,960 DPR at level 30 when they're twinked out using this that and the other, a one-man army who doesn't like to play with others, kind of defeats the whole party-basis of D&D.
 

You are right! I'm still new to DnD so I read a lot, hence my confusion (at first) and doubting my character. I re-read it though - it's a d12 class that uses heavy armour without penalties and has battlefield control. Seems pretty good to me! Plus i always wanted to RP a character like that - a young, cocky, holier than thou noble :)
 

Every class is underpowered compared to the cleric (using the cheesey DMM),

The cleric HAS to be a strong class to make up for the fact that they get pigeon-holed as the party's healer. And personally, I see nothing wrong with Divine Metamagic. Any player that builds their character to take advantage of that is going to be forced to use all their feats for extra turn undead attempts.
 

I as well say that this game is for the Role playing and not the combat... that being said there are classes that have great flavor but are so mechanicly screwed buy the designers that you you are unable to do the job that it was disned for as well as some one who takes a dip in a simmilar class and then returns to their own doing better at their job AND your's at the same time, classes like knight and dragon shaman, now they are okay to play when every one else is playing flavor classes and the dm drops the campains CR

i would love to play them but you take a couple levels here and a few there and wow you do the same things but better and can do other things besides just as well, mind you i may be biased, i blame my RL gaming group. i meet them after i moved to my new town, i played D&D twice before, i compare it to learning to stand in the paddle pool then being thrown into the ocean and surviving.

in conclusion it is much more fun to roleplay, and there is a difference between twinking and pulling your own weight

and i problely just made some enimies, i'm a little bitter about not being able to play fun things because they are just not effective, inside OR out side combat and don't get me started on racial hit dice and Level adjustment
 

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