Jemals school of hard knocks

[Andor]

To be fair I do think the Dragon Shaman benefits mightily from a dip into a fighting class. And certainly one is no replacement for a cleric, but then nothing is. They beat both bards and marshals all hollow however. The auras are very cool as you shall see soon enough. As a support class they are hard to beat, and with that dip they make pretty good front liners as well.

 

[ishalleatyourflesh]

i don't know about the marshal but they do not beat a bard. people just don't know how to play them proprly. and yes the auras are INTRESTING, it just that for a major feature of the class they don't do all that much the fast heal is nice but it's only up to half hp. for every thing else you can take a few classes else where and get them and what ever else that class gives, mind you i'm playing devils advacit really, i wouldn't mind playing the class if those i knew couldn't make the same character with half the levels

 

[Rhun]

If you are good at character optimization, you can make even a weak class strong. I've seen some crazy builds in my day.

 

[Theroc]

I'm still bloody eager to try my melee Warlock build in Leif's game... granted it relies on the DM ruling Hideous Blow doesn't provoke AoO's... because I can't afford to get smacked around everytime I attack.

I'm also eager to see how Coravin fares (and learning to manage my spell usage).

Mind, I've very little D&D experience myself, and as Rhun can attest, I have a tendency to agonize over numbercrunching and optimizing out of a paranoid fear of being unable to pull my weight.

I enjoy roleplaying, but if I'm totally useless, I know I won't have any fun as I'll be disappointed that I can't be of help.

Anyways, I am kinda a 1/2 and 1/2 player. I enjoy the roleplaying, but I also enjoy being effective and useful(while I know at least ONE person off Enworld who actually wildly enjoys playing a character who routinely gets his arse handed to him during encounters[His character manages to live, but not win]) That would frustrate me.

~cuts himself off during ramble.~

Anyways, carry on...

 

[ishalleatyourflesh]

if no one has noticed i am having so much fun playing Aussir.

 

[GlassEye]

But...kobold is such a sub-optimal race! How is that possible?!

 

[ishalleatyourflesh]

the fact that i'm going to have a strength score in the high 30's maybe low 40's

 

[renau1g]

I'm not saying a PC shouldn't be able to pull his own weight, but just should play the PC they want. I really, really don't think there are any PC classes out there that suck so hard they shouldn't be played. Now that being said certain classes are much better as a 5th PC when the four main roles are covered (Tank, SKill, Arcane, Divine), read Bard, Dragon Shaman, Marshal, Duskblade, etc... as they aren't strong enough in a certain facet to truly cover it off as well as the specialist.

 

[GlassEye]

the fact that i'm going to have a strength score in the high 30's maybe low 40's

Hey, you can't fool us. We all know it's really because you get to prance around and extol the virtues of rat.

I am curious to know how you are going to manage the str thing if you'd care to give a brief on your character plan.

 

[GlassEye]

I'm not saying a PC shouldn't be able to pull his own weight, but just should play the PC they want. I really, really don't think there are any PC classes out there that suck so hard they shouldn't be played. Now that being said certain classes are much better as a 5th PC when the four main roles are covered (Tank, SKill, Arcane, Divine), read Bard, Dragon Shaman, Marshal, Duskblade, etc... as they aren't strong enough in a certain facet to truly cover it off as well as the specialist.

I'd agree with that. My problem with Cal is that he is unfocused when it comes to role. I kinda dread the next level when I have to make a more directed decision. I enjoy playing the character, though.