Jump while withdrawing?

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Can a character Jump while doing a withdraw?

Withdrawing from melee combat is a full-round action. When you withdraw, you can move up to double your speed. The square you start out in is not considered threatened by any opponent you can see, and therefore visible enemies do not get attacks of opportunity against you when you move from that square. (Invisible enemies still get attacks of opportunity against you, and you can’t withdraw from combat if you’re blinded.) You can’t take a 5-foot step during the same round in which you withdraw.

If, during the process of withdrawing, you move out of a threatened square (other than the one you started in), enemies get attacks of opportunity as normal.

You may not withdraw using a form of movement for which you don’t have a listed speed.

Note that despite the name of this action, you don’t actually have to leave combat entirely.

Restricted Withdraw: If you are limited to taking only a standard action each round you can withdraw as a standard action. In this case, you may move up to your speed (rather than up to double your speed).

Jump

Action: None. A Jump check is included in your movement, so it is part of a move action. If you run out of movement mid-jump, your next action (either on this turn or, if necessary, on your next turn) must be a move action to complete the jump.

 

[Infiniti2000]

I say no, nor can you Tumble.

 

[frankthedm]

Looks like you can. Looks like, if you have the 20' before the jump, you can even claim 'a running start' since that not actually part of the 'run' action.

 

[Infiniti2000]

Looks like you can. Looks like, if you have the 20' before the jump, you can even claim 'a running start' since that not actually part of the 'run' action.

If you are not taking a Move Action, there's nothing for the Jump to be a part of.

 

[jeffman]

Don't be a mean DM

If you are not taking a Move Action, there's nothing for the Jump to be a part of.

Sure, it can be part of movement, like withdraw, since withdraw is movement.

I personally think allowing you to jump or tumble during a withdraw action makes sense. I agree it is not the strictest reading of the rules, but I don't think that was the intent of the rules were to pervent people from being able to jump during a withdraw.

 

[Infiniti2000]

I do think it was the intent.

Otherwise, it doesn't make sense IMO to allow you (for example) to withdraw and perform a high jump while disallowing you to withdraw and open a door.

 

[TYPO5478]

If you are not taking a Move Action, there's nothing for the Jump to be a part of.

Would you at least allow the jump first thing the next round provided that the last 20 feet moved while withdrawing was in a straight line?

 

[jeffman]

Either Or

I do think it was the intent.

Otherwise, it doesn't make sense IMO to allow you (for example) to withdraw and perform a high jump while disallowing you to withdraw and open a door.

So are you saying you want jumping to be a seperate move-eq. action on it's own, or that you want the ability to open a door as part of a movement?

 

[Stalker0]

Withdrawing is movement. Jumping can be done when taking movement. Your taking movement when you withdraw. You can jump when you withdraw. Seems pretty logical to me.

 

[starwed]

Since you can jump while charging, you can presumably jump while withdrawing. (Both being full round actions which involve movement.)