Just saw X-Men III (Now with spoilers!)

[Vocenoctum]

Those aren't Rogue's original powers. She stole those from another charcter, when she helkp on to long. She also ended up stealling some of Carol Danvers (Ms Marvel) personality.

I know, it was a general statement on how all the characters were reduced.

If Rogue had done that she would actually be more dangerous than Jean, since she has no training at all in how to handle psychic powers, it would have been to much for her, and possibly lead to more destruction.

An untrained UberPower being more dangerous than someone intent on using them to kill you?

I don't believe the bands are what gives Juggernaut his power. I think it's a crystal of some sort.

my mistake, I remembered the Crimson Bands and cross-thought them to Jugg's.

 

[Vocenoctum]

They do in fact mention this to Professor X when they return from the lake or after she leaves; either Storm or Wolverine say 'And.. I think she killed Scott'. Professor X does not see him die; he's reacting to her power spike, probably, in a 'millions of voices cried out and then were silenced'-type of thing.

Wolverine mentions it when Prof X finds him after Jean leaves.

Of course, Prof X has cause to believe Cyclops was killed.
Wolverine has the glasses.
::insert indeterminate amount of time between Jean being recovered from the lake shore and waking up, which also includes Prof X talking to Wolverine about Jean's psychic circuitry::
Jean flakes, Wolverine mentions Cyclops to Prof X.

Also, Prof X blames Wolverine for Jean getting out, but he didn't seem to do anything directly. I can see Wolverine not caring to defend himself from the accusation, but the accusation and also Prof X's "I don't have to explain this to YOU" comment are out of place for Prof X IMO. He may be a ratbastard, but he's also quite polite and diplomatic about it.

Either way, Cyclops is missing, two folks believe he's dead, no one cares to check cerebro.

 

[Taelorn76]

Also, Prof X blames Wolverine for Jean getting out, but he didn't seem to do anything directly. I can see Wolverine not caring to defend himself from the accusation, but the accusation and also Prof X's "I don't have to explain this to YOU" comment are out of place for Prof X IMO. He may be a ratbastard, but he's also quite polite and diplomatic about it.

Maybe Xaviers actions are setting up the Onslaught story line? Was he not acting abnormal in the comics before that story line started?

 

[Vigilance]

Another review, this one from Mr. Ebert: http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060525/REVIEWS/60509005

A decent counterpoint to the more snarky, negative review I posted earlier. The summary is fairly spot-on:


I've read that X3 was rushed to theaters to hit before Superman Returns, and it shows in the script, direction, and FX. Overall, it's just iffy enough that you'll see the lack of unified opinion demonstrated on this thread.

Given this is the last X-Men film (for now), it's kind of a bummer. Going out on a definitive high note would have been a lot more satisfying.

Edit. Snarky today.

 

[buzz]

Given how much money it made, there will be another movie whether you like it or not.

Shrek 2 is the #3 top-grossing film of all time. Does that mean it's the #3 best movie ever made?

The producers have said that this is the last X-Men (proper) film for the time being. There will be a Wolverine movie, at least. I look forward to it.

Apparently a lot of people DID like it, no matter how much you post reviews and talk about it being bad and the last as facts and not opinions.

Please don't turn this thread towards "I shoudln't have to post 'IMO' after every single sentence" tomfoolery. I haven't represented anything as fact; I posted my opinions along with some reviews that are on-topic. The Ebert review, if you had bothered to read it, gave the film 3 out of 4 stars. Ebert liked the movie. I even wrote, "This is a nice counterpoint to the negative review I posted before".

Seriously, Vigilance, I know you're smarter than this. Don't fall into the fanboy mentality that assumes I'm attacking you because I don't like the genre artifact you like. (And I even wrote that I had some fun with the film.)

That, or you're just confusing me with someone else.

 

[Aesthetic Monk]

The bits which I found impressive in this movie on the emotional level include

a) young Warren clipping his wings in the bathroom.

b) death of Professor X. I didn't see that coming!

c) betrayal of Mystique by Magneto when she became human

d) Wolverine and Jean at the end

I was sorry that Cyclops didn't emotionally involve me, but frankly I hardly recognised the character in the film from the ones in the comics that I used to enjoy, so it wasn't really surprising.

Cheers

This would be the list I'd cite, too. Not every moment in a movie has to be heartrending, but it strikes me that these scenes were pretty brief and not very central to the story (with the obvious exception of [d], although even that's handled more brusquely than it might've been).

(A) is painful, but it's ultimately in the service of a very minor character. (B) seems mainly there to establish Jean's bad-gal cred (and sounds like it's undercut at the end, anyway). (C) actually *hurts* the film because it neuters one of the better characters from the first two movies. For me, this is a movie that gets the minor notes right (good scenes for some minor characters, for example) but trashes the major ones. Plus, with the possibility that the cure isn't really a cure, that people who died aren't really dead, any kind of emotional impact is undercut and everything feels like cheating anyway, or at least hedging bets. I know this sort of thing is endemic to comics, but I'd rather the future writers and director of X4 have to go to elaborate lengths to ret-con people back alive than have it all built into this movie. It's just like how I have to watch that "Remember" bit in Star Trek II each time, knowing how they're cheating me there.

But I'm glad you liked the movie.

 

[Viking Bastard]

Shrek 2 is the #3 top-grossing film of all time. Does that mean it's the #3 best movie ever made?

The producers have said that this is the last X-Men (proper) film for the time being. There will be a Wolverine movie, at least. I look forward to it.

What they've said that this is the last of this saga. There may well be a X-Men 4 in two years, but that will begin a new story.

 

[fanboy2000]

Don't fall into the fanboy mentality that assumes I'm attacking you because I don't like the genre artifact you like.

Did someone call me?

Stephen Nicholson

 

[Shalimar]

One would hope that the next x-men movie would move on to new characters along the lines of Gen X or New Mutants. With the characters being so different in age it be came Wolverine and Storm as the babysitters.

 

[Darth K'Trava]

Honestly I think that may be your problem right there you watched them on cable and they may have edited out the more violent scenes

They usually do. You'd do better going out and getting the DVDs. Although getting 3 will be separate from my set of the first two that I already have.