Just saw X-Men III (Now with spoilers!)

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

Wolverine never volunteered for the Weapon X project. In both continueties he had to be forcibly dragged to the Weapon X facility. You're thinking of Sabertooth he's the psycho you were talking about. Our good friend Logan on the other hand is just a brooding, angry warrior with a crappy love life. He also happens to be a berzerker whichs leads to the appearence of psychosis but is in fact not.

But in the movies, he DID volunteer for it.

 

[Steverooo]

Stryker LIED?

 

[Larcen]

One thing I would have liked to have seen was Iceman cruising on the ice that he makes like in the old "Spider Man and his amazing friends " cartoon.

Watch "The Incredibles".

 

[WayneLigon]

My main problem with Cyclops death was that no one mentioned it. Phoenix returns to the mansion, time passes, Wolverine asks her when she wakes up. Prof X saw him die, but says nothing.

They do in fact mention this to Professor X when they return from the lake or after she leaves; either Storm or Wolverine say 'And.. I think she killed Scott'. Professor X does not see him die; he's reacting to her power spike, probably, in a 'millions of voices cried out and then were silenced'-type of thing.

 

[bodhi]

I think more characters should have died. I always think more characters should have died. And I did not see Mag's move the cheese piece with his mutant powers, I thought it was shaking the board or poking the piece.

Ooh, that'll be an extra on the DVD. Magneto gestures at the board, brow furrowed in concentration. Suddenly, his knee jerks up and hits the underside of the table, making the pieces shudder. He smiles knowingly, then proceeds to pull coins from the air while muttering "they called me MAD!" under his breath.

 

[glass]

Wonder what the chances are of an X-Men 4 given the heavily casualties.

I wondered if they deliberately killed off a bunch of characters so they wouldn't have to pay those actors for X4... but I'm cynical like that.


glass.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Uhhuh.

Which is why they hate each other so much, actively try to kill one another and don't visit each other between adventures to play chess.

Obviously they are NOT seriously trying to eliminate one another, they are just arguing over procedures. They are shown to be friends and confidants throughout all three movies and would obviously prefer to look the other way to what each other is doing.

Remember that in movie #1, Xavier runs into Magneto and has a clear chance to just enter his mind and find out what's going on. But he doesn't do that. They have a nice little chat.

In movies one and two they're shown playing chess and having casual conversations.

They are not enemies, they're friends, and clearly view the whole "building bridges between human and mutant" or "mutants should rule the Earth" as a political debate. Each thinks the other will someday see it his way so there's no need for them to kill one another.

Chuck

But they don't have the same agenda - Magnetos goals are different from Xaviers. But their friendship goes back so long that they avoid killing each other, even if it would be better for their respective plans.

But I also think they underestimated each other a few times. Xavier didn't stop Magneto immediately in X-Men 1, because he wasn't aware of what he was willing to do (and out of their friendship didn't make it a habit to scan Magnetos mind). Still, Magneto was stopped by the X-Men. Once he was in prison, Xavier was visiting him, because Magneto was no longer harm, and maybe he even hoped he could convince him of his own side (and considering that prison is not only supposed to be punishment, but also reeducation/resocialisation, that makes absolute sense for somone like Xavier.)

 

[WayneLigon]

I wondered if they deliberately killed off a bunch of characters so they wouldn't have to pay those actors for X4... but I'm cynical like that.

Contracts usually don't work like that. If they were signed for further films - and most contracts I've read about say 2-3 films for the major stars - the studio would still be out money for renegotiation, or penalty fees or whatever (assuming some amazing cirsumstance occurred. Typically they'd say 'um, you can't kill so and so, he's signed for X4' and that would be that unless the parties renegotiated. For the people in the battle scene or people like Callisto? They are typically not going to have contracts like that. They show up, they work a few weeks, they leave. They won't have multi-film contracts.

 

[Taelorn76]

Oh, there's a big difference, but Iceman's been shown to freeze large amounts of water in the comics. If they de-powered him for the movie, (and X3 seems to suggest that they haven't) then I feel that some kind of limitation should have been mentioned or shown. As the movie stands now, the only reason I would think he can't stop it is because he didn't.

But in the moive he is alot younger than in the comics. yeah eventually he might be able to stop a wall lof water, but right now he is just figuring out how to turn his body into ice.

 

[Taelorn76]

What would have been better, attempting to find a way to stop hte juggarnet in the traditional non-mutant sense or depowering him so that you can get a good comic relief scene.

I personaly liked the comic releif

IN part two, a crazy military operation to wipe out mutants is stopped by the xmen. In part three, a military operation to create a weapon that will wipe out a mutants powers is saved.

In part 2 military wanted to kill mutants, in 3 the cure was intended as an option for mutants, it originaly wasn't forced on them.

IN part one and two, Xavier stresses individual choice and self control over powers. IN x3 he's a control freak whom stresses that there area select few whom should make decisions on what is right and what is wrong.

I do agree with you on this one. It was a little strange to see Xavier do a 180 on this issue

In part one and two, the xmen have a couple of good teamwork teams where they get the bad guys, minimal casulaties and save the day. Not a single scene like that in the movie.

Did you mis the whole fight scene at the end. That was team work. You could not have all 6 X-Men taking on each pawn individually. They fight who they can and get each others backs.

I watched it with my nephew and was seriously surprised that this movie wasn't rated R. We saw simulated sex, countless onscreen killings, a few beheadings, lots of people shot

I honestly don't remember any simulated sex in the movie. Wolverine killing a bunch of mutants in the woods goes right along with the comic version of Wolverine. And as far as people being shot I would say 90% were mutants shot with the cure, which is kinded needed since the cure was a central theme of the movie