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Kalamar - first published 4e setting?!?

This is where the

taste may be a subjective thing and there is no universally-agreed scale by which to measure the acceptability or otherwise of a naming scheme​

bit comes in.

Why then claim that if enough people believe something sounds stupid it would be stupid? That's not a matter of decision, that's a flat statement of fact.
 

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Because subjective != objective.

Is this a trick question?

A judgement ("this sounds stupid to me") is subjective. A statement of fact ("this is stupid") is objective. And you claimed that if enough people thought something sounded stupid, it was stupid.
 

A judgement ("this sounds stupid to me") is subjective. A statement of fact ("this is stupid") is objective. And you claimed that if enough people thought something sounded stupid, it was stupid.
Perhaps more syllables are in order. If enough people think something is stupid, then it is reasonable to act as if that thing is indeed stupid, regardless of the underlying epistemological issues regarding the validity or otherwise of subjective preference rankings.

Is this clear?
 

Perhaps more syllables are in order. If enough people think something is stupid, then it is reasonable to act as if that thing is indeed stupid, regardless of the underlying epistemological issues regarding the validity or otherwise of subjective preference rankings.

Is this clear?

Yes. It certainly is a very different statement than the one before. And of course it is highly situational.

If you want to sell something to said people, it is advisable to cater to their taste. If you do not want to sell something to them, but to others who do not share their taste, it's not advisable to cater to their taste.

And I certainly won't stop roleplaying just because there are lots of people who consider it dorky, stupid, or dangerous to my immortal soul.
 

Yes. It certainly is a very different statement than the one before. And of course it is highly situational.

If you want to sell something to said people, it is advisable to cater to their taste. If you do not want to sell something to them, but to others who do not share their taste, it's not advisable to cater to their taste.

IOW, if enough people think something is stupid, then it's stupid.

And I certainly won't stop roleplaying just because there are lots of people who consider it dorky, stupid, or dangerous to my immortal soul.

I am intrigued by your insightful posts and wish to subscribe to your blog.
 

IOW, if enough people think something is stupid, then it's stupid.

Not at all. If enough people think wearing red clothes will make you thinner, selling such clothes is a good idea. It doesn't, however, mean that it actually makes you thin.

A not so fine difference.
 

Not at all. If enough people think wearing red clothes will make you thinner, selling such clothes is a good idea. It doesn't, however, mean that it actually makes you thin.

A not so fine difference.

In case of clothes, though, appearing as something might be all that is required. If you appear to most people as thin when wearing red (and thin is in), it might be a good idea to wear read, too. (If you're doing it for health reason it's less useful)

If the names in a setting sound stupid to many people, it will "hurt" their game experience. It doesn't matter if, according to some objective measure, it's okay. Feeling can be very important for role-playing games.
 


In case of clothes, though, appearing as something might be all that is required. If you appear to most people as thin when wearing red (and thin is in), it might be a good idea to wear read, too. (If you're doing it for health reason it's less useful)

If the names in a setting sound stupid to many people, it will "hurt" their game experience. It doesn't matter if, according to some objective measure, it's okay. Feeling can be very important for role-playing games.

Of course. But as with music, you don't have to please everyone, you jsut have to please enough people. And often, trying to please everyone ends up in a product that pleases no one.

Watering down Kalamar by deviating from its core concept of an internally logical and "organic" world - geography, culture, names, history, religion - might do far more harm than good.
 

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