Kalamar losing popularity?

[Liminal Syzygy]

Can arcady or anyone give me any details on how KoK fits the ramifications of magic into it the setting and it's social fabric? I think that was one point IC made that arcady rebuffed, and I'm interested in hearing details.

 

[Nightfall]

Nightfall, I respect your taste in supplements, and admire your dedication to the Scarred Lands line. I'm just getting kind of tired of hearing about it all the time. I'm fairly certain there's more to you than just that, but no offense, but you're coming across as kind of one-dimensional lately.

Right well I'm sure there's a lot more to a lot of people Klugie. Just don't always see it. I grin. I deal. I bear with it.

Arc, easy there friend. No need to attack Iron for his comments. But I will say I appreciate your input as always. Even if we do disagree on points.

 

[johnsemlak]

I think the length of this thread may be an indication that Kalamar still has some fans .

 

[Nightfall]

Or that I like posting a lot. Either is good.

 

[ddougan]

However, I would recommend to new KoK readers that they NOT sit down and try to read the campaign setting sourcebook from start to finish. It really is a detailed gazetteer/history book, and I think that makes it more difficult for some readers to get through. Instead, try this a few times - flip randomly through the book and plunk your finger down somewhere on a page. Read that section, and see if you find something that makes your mind wander over all the adventure possibilities. Then try it again. And again.

Thanks for the suggestion Mark - I'll give it a go.

Also, is there a Net book or something similar which contains a list of Kalamar adventure hooks etc?

Is there a KoK published adventure that I should consider as a good starting point (both in terms of entertaining my combat-oriented group and grabbing them into the KoK world rather than them seeing it as an extension of what they are used to?)

(Again, I've had limited exposure to KoK websites, and the official Kenzer site has downloads limited to character sheets).

 

[Darklone]

Thanks for the suggestion Mark - I'll give it a go.

Also, is there a Net book or something similar which contains a list of Kalamar adventure hooks etc?

Is there a KoK published adventure that I should consider as a good starting point (both in terms of entertaining my combat-oriented group and grabbing them into the KoK world rather than them seeing it as an extension of what they are used to?)

(Again, I've had limited exposure to KoK websites, and the official Kenzer site has downloads limited to character sheets).

Kalamar has several low level adventures which are good as a start in several regions:
- Reanaaria bay: Coins Trilogy (Root of all Evil, Forging Darkness, Coins End)
- Kalamaran Empire: Invasion of Arun'Kid
- Brandobia: Aldrivs Revenge or Stand&Deliver
- Young Kingdoms: Harvest of Darkness
There are more, I suggest to have a look at the www.kenzerco.com page to check the product list of Kalamar...

Many of these adventures have been modified and played several times by boardmembers on the Kalamar boards, we're always happy to share our ideas.

Can arcady or anyone give me any details on how KoK fits the ramifications of magic into it the setting and it's social fabric? I think that was one point IC made that arcady rebuffed, and I'm interested in hearing details.

That's another point that was discussed a lot on the boards there. The setting is mostly variable, so you can run Harnworld campaigns there or high magic stuff with plane hopping. The setting book gives ideas how to fit more high level spellcasters into the world in case you want some (e.g. as wandering mages).

As said above, just ask on the boards over there and there will be many guys who have more suggestions.

 

[ddougan]

I wanted to like Kalamar, but I, too, felt the CS book was too bland. It just didn't grab my attention or spark my interest the way other settings have (e.g., Midnight, Greyhawk -- the original folio or the LGG -- or Blue Planet).

I don't think any book has ever grabbed my attention like Midnight. This really must set the standard in campaign settings for years to come.

Not since the final chapter of the Enemy Within campaign (Empire in Flames) did I sit down and just read an RPG book like a novel from start to finish.

 

[Nightfall]

Well it's nice to know my alternate pimp daddy sage self Ash has some place to feed the ferverant worshippers then.

 

[mattcolville]

Matt, I think you're confused as to which book I'm talking about. I picked up the Kalamar Player's Guide (KKPG), which is different from the Kalamar Setting book---and contains classes, spells, feats, skills, equipment.

So, I picked the KKPG up, knowing I was not going to play Kalamar, but to see if it had any useful crunch in it for other settings. It was almost all exportable with no tweaking, to ANY setting.

Right, but it say "Kalamar" right there on the cover, yes? Kalamar, the setting. That so much content is "exportable" is not relevant to the success of the book, as it's not a Export book, it's a PHB for a specific setting. If someone passes it by thinking "I don't want to play Kalamar," it can only be because KenzerCo set it up to be thus.

PS: Matt, I wanted to say congrats on authoring Fields of Blood. I looked at all its rivals and thought they fell flat--way flat in comparison. FoB has it all. I'm grumbly about paying $30 for softcovers, so I haven't gotten around to buying it yet, but it's the only one in its field I'm considering buying. I'm also really impressed with your fast responses here to address erratta and stuff, and to get downloads up at Eden's site in support of your book.

Lizard and Doug had a lot more to do with getting the book done than I did. I just designed the core rules and ethos of the book. I think I can speak for all three of us when I say we're happy you like it!

 

[Nightfall]

Matt,

Is okay if I liked Liber Beasterius more than Fields of Blood?