Kara-Tur vs Rokugan

Which setting do you prefer for your Oriental Adventures

  • Kara-Tur

    Votes: 56 58.3%
  • Rokugan

    Votes: 20 20.8%
  • Uh... why not Dragon Empires?

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Lemoncurry

    Votes: 19 19.8%

  • Total voters
    96

Psyzhran2357

Villager
Considering how WotC is carefully handling culture/racial/gender/etc issues right now, I do not think we will ever see a full-blown book on the region unless and until they feel they can walk the line just right in the writing. And I am fine with that. I do not want to see a book full of negative stereotypes and biases.
Use Xianxia genre conventions to reinvent Kara-Tur while also updating the timeline for 5e to incorporate the Spellplague and the Second Sundering. Or hell, get a Xianxia author to consult or even write the setting, and maybe a series of tie-in novels. If it comes out looking like 三生三世十里桃花/Three Lives, Three Worlds, Ten Miles of Peach Blossoms, you're probably on the right track.

A plot idea I have is for Shou Lung to have undergone a dynastic shift some time in the mid-late 1400s DR, with the new dynasty maybe swallowing T'u Lung or Koryo. The last scion of the previous dynasty, who survived and fled to Faerun, would be a major NPC and quest giver for a hypothetical party.
 

gyor

Adventurer
Use Xianxia genre conventions to reinvent Kara-Tur while also updating the timeline for 5e to incorporate the Spellplague and the Second Sundering. Or hell, get a Xianxia author to consult or even write the setting, and maybe a series of tie-in novels. If it comes out looking like 三生三世十里桃花/Three Lives, Three Worlds, Ten Miles of Peach Blossoms, you're probably on the right track.

A plot idea I have is for Shou Lung to have undergone a dynastic shift some time in the mid-late 1400s DR, with the new dynasty maybe swallowing T'u Lung or Koryo. The last scion of the previous dynasty, who survived and fled to Faerun, would be a major NPC and quest giver for a hypothetical party.
I'd love some Kara Tur Novels.
 

Kobold Avenger

Adventurer
https://comicbook.com/gaming/2019/01/05/dungeons-and-dragons-2020-settings-diversity/

People seem to forgot this, that Wotc is going to be updating Kara Tur and some other less European centric regions with help from experts on various cultures.
I suggested before that a full-fledged Kaladesh campaign setting (yes I know they have a Planeshift article on that) might be a thing since they're starting to do Magic the Gathering settings after releasing Ravnica, and Kaladesh is sort of an Indian analog with airships.
 
Rokugan all the way. Kara-tur hasn't aged particularly well, whereas the constant updates and refreshes for Rokugan have kept it interesting.
 

Staffan

Adventurer
For those who like Rokugan, you do know that there's a new Legend of the Five Rings RPG out, right? It's very much not like D&D (or the old Legend of the Five Rings), but it probably works better for the setting in question than 5e does.
 

TheSword

Explorer
I love Rokugan. Awesome setting with plenty of opportunity to expand into alternative cultures, an Indian equivalent, desert waste, and Great Plains are all referenced but not detailed. The clans are pretty varied with a fair few non-human races as well.

Ultimately the setting lacks adventures to signpost and demonstrate the possibilities. I’m excited to see if FFgames release a campaign that can be converted to 5e.
 

Voadam

Adventurer
I read the d20 Rokugan book and really liked it. It does fantasy samurai area with themed clan politics very well.

I used OA in 1e, 2e, and 3e as source material for individual elements like classes and spells and monsters but not really Kara Tur.

I own Dragon empires and other not-Asia sourcebooks but have not delved into them deeply. D20 Rokugan is the one that appeals to me the most as a setting to use.
 

Samloyal23

Explorer
Has anyone stuck Rokugan in Kara-tur? Are there any good setting based on India or smaller countries like Vietnam or Laos?
 

Azzy

Cyclone Ranger
Whatever WotC does with an East Asian fantasy supplement, it needs to not be Japan-centric at the expense of all other East Asian cultures like the earlier Oriental Adventures books and Rokugan were. Stop trying to shoehorn samurai and ninja into everything.
 

Voadam

Adventurer
Has anyone stuck Rokugan in Kara-tur? Are there any good setting based on India or smaller countries like Vietnam or Laos?
For India there is Green Ronin's Mindshadows for 3.0. A psionics focused D&D setting, there is a print sourcebook and monster book but not pdfs for some reason.

There is also Sahashra from Dog Soul Publishing a full on Mythic India for 3.5.

WotC also did an India version of Kara Tur as a web supplement for 3e Oriental Adventures.
 

gyor

Adventurer
For India there is Green Ronin's Mindshadows for 3.0. A psionics focused D&D setting, there is a print sourcebook and monster book but not pdfs for some reason.

There is also Sahashra from Dog Soul Publishing a full on Mythic India for 3.5.

WotC also did an India version of Kara Tur as a web supplement for 3e Oriental Adventures.
Mahasarpa is not linked to Kara Tur, I think it's linked to Rokugan, at least in the past, but I don't know about it's legal status now.
 

Azzy

Cyclone Ranger
Mahasarpa is not linked to Kara Tur, I think it's linked to Rokugan, at least in the past, but I don't know about it's legal status now.
It's an entirely independent setting created by James Wyatt, and it belongs to WotC.
 

gyor

Adventurer
Whatever WotC does with an East Asian fantasy supplement, it needs to not be Japan-centric at the expense of all other East Asian cultures like the earlier Oriental Adventures books and Rokugan were. Stop trying to shoehorn samurai and ninja into everything.
They are hiring expert consultants and likely doing Kara Tur, which has two fantasy Japans, two fantasy China's, fantasy Vietnam, fantasy Cambodia, fantasy Hong Kong, fantasy Korea, fantasy Tibet, fantasy Mongolia, Fantasy Siberia. I originally were also going to do fantasy Sri Lanka and fantasy Thighland, but they never got to it.
 

Samloyal23

Explorer
I had forgotten about Mahasarpa, it is a fun setting, takes full advantage of the 3E rules, and it really should be part of the Forgotten Realms.
 

gyor

Adventurer
I had forgotten about Mahasarpa, it is a fun setting, takes full advantage of the 3E rules, and it really should be part of the Forgotten Realms.
Well given Roukugen is no longer a D&D setting, putting it in FR makes the most sense, but the question then becomes where in FR do you put it, and what changes to Mahasarpa do they have have to make to have it fit 5e and the Forgotten Realms?
 

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