Kensai Ki Projection

[zlorf]

Hi,

Does anyone know the why 2 of 4 skills that can be increased by a Kensai at 4th lvl and 8th lvl when using Ki Projection are cross class skills?

Skills: Diplomacy (c), intimidate (c), Bluff (cc) and Gather Info (cc)
c=class
cc=cross class

With little skill points would it be worth spending point to increasing the (cc) skills?

If these were skills the Kensai is supposed to excel in, wouldn't it make sense to have all of them on his class list?

Cheers
Z

ps im posting this for someone else...

 

[Sound of Azure]

It would make more sense if they were all class skills, and I have house ruled it as such.

I also removed the Ride 5 ranks requirement from the Prerequisites. Why ride? It didn't make any sense to me, as none of the class abilities relate to Riding whatsoever.
I did add in the requirement of 2 of the following skills at 3 ranks: Bluff, Gather Information, and Intimidate.

The only sense I see in that is that the Kensai is SO good at the skills, they don't even need to put skill ranks in the skills to get better at them. On the other hand, you can get a Kensai that's obscenely good at diplomacy!

I recently had fun with a Crane clan Samurai(OA)/Kensai/Iaijutsu master. Scar-y.

 

[BryonD]

If these were skills the Kensai is supposed to excel in, wouldn't it make sense to have all of them on his class list?

Being actively skilled in something is not the same as having an advantage in that area.

It seems completely reaonable to me that the kensai as a class would have no more reason to focus their attention on being good at "gather information" than a fighter would. However, their natural force of personality makes them a bit better at getting the information they want then their fighter buddy is. But the bard is even better through lots of practice, even though he lacks the kansai's steely gaze (or whatever fluff you apply to it).

I'm not saying it would bring a game tumbling down to change this.

But class skills indicate a tendency to focus on improving a giving action through practice. It is perfectly sensible that a class could gain a natural advantage in a skill that this class would still not tend to spend time practicing.