Kobold Quarterly and 4e

[ShinHakkaider]

Personally I think it would suck if KQ started having more crunch heavy 4E articles. There are THREE 4E magazines out there (Dragon, Dungeon and whatever Goodman Games publication is called), KQ is / was the only magazine giving 3.5 / Pathfinder support. I know this sounds crazy, but I think that if 4E people want magazine support they already have it elsewhere.

I know that Wolfgang has to go where the money is but DAMN.

 

[Jack99]

Personally I think it would suck if KQ started having more crunch heavy 4E articles. There are THREE 4E magazines out there (Dragon, Dungeon and whatever Goodman Games publication is called), KQ is / was the only magazine giving 3.5 / Pathfinder support. I know this sounds crazy, but I think that if 4E people want magazine support they already have it elsewhere.

I know that Wolfgang has to go where the money is but DAMN.

Stop seeing everything as a competition. Besides, this is hardly the thread to discuss this particular issue.

 

[Varianor Abroad]

Stop seeing everything as a competition. Besides, this is hardly the thread to discuss this particular issue.

I guess you guys have issues with each other! Regardless of personal issues, I think it's a fair point. If 4E content goes up, there's less Pathfinder content and 3.5 content. I'm a fan of the latter two, even though I'm not complaining about the 4E articles and increasing content.

 

[Mournblade94]

Personally I think it would suck if KQ started having more crunch heavy 4E articles. There are THREE 4E magazines out there (Dragon, Dungeon and whatever Goodman Games publication is called), KQ is / was the only magazine giving 3.5 / Pathfinder support. I know this sounds crazy, but I think that if 4E people want magazine support they already have it elsewhere.

I know that Wolfgang has to go where the money is but DAMN.

This is precisely why people that play Pathfinder and 3rd edition, are actually anti-4e. ~ Don't start edition wars if you want to keep on posting. As it is, you are booted from this thread: PS ~ It is not so much there is a new edition, it is that the edition they played is losing all of its support.

I buy every issue of KQ. If they turned that into a place for 4e support instead of Pathfinder and time tested editions of D&D, I would not even bother picking it up anymore. There is plenty of 4e support out there. 3rd edition does not need to lose support from KQ since it is really the only magazine around that will support it.

Ofcourse if the publisher needs to go where the money is so be it, I really would not blame him. I think however that the 3rd edition camp can keep buying the magazine and so provide good support.

 

[hewligan]

I am in the camp that (as a subscriber) see KQ as the only magazine that offers 3e and PF focus. If, as appears to be the happening, it continues to increase over time its page-count dedicated to 4e then I personally feel that it will be losing one of its key selling points. I know I will stop subscribing, not out of malice or ill-placed-internet-anger, but because I have zero use for 4e content, and if I did there would be 3 other magazines directly servicing my needs.

 

[Joshua_Stevens]

Hey guys, I wrote the 4e article "Chasing the Grave."

I've also written several 3.x articles previously for KQ.

Essentially, I've never understood the preference for one edition over the other, or why inclusion of a few 4e articles would bother anyone. (To the point of no longer subscribing? Really?) I do understand fears of 3.x completely losing magazine support, but KQ has, and always will, support 3.x.

Any article is really only fuel for your creativity, and any article can be mined for ideas, regardless of the edition/statblocks/etc. used. Ultimately, KQ responds to what the readers want.

If you truly loved an article, but wish it included other stats/edition specific material - post on the KQ boards or send KQ an email. KQ has begun supporting alternative edition material for articles on its website, and will likely continue to do so if the demand is there.

Basically - don't hate the Kobold for being all inclusive, but by all means continue to let the authors know what you like, and what you didn't. We patrol the intarwebs with some regularity, so I assure you that we're listening.

 

[hewligan]

Basically - don't hate the Kobold for being all inclusive, but by all means continue to let the authors know what you like, and what you didn't. We patrol the intarwebs with some regularity, so I assure you that we're listening.

It is not "hate" - just economics mixed with game flavour and direct usefulness. I mean KQ is not "all inclusive" - and if crunch made no difference then we may as well use magazines/articles written for Warhammer FRP, Gamma World, Castles and Crusade, etc.

Just to make my point clear: There are 3 magazines being publishes that directly cater to 4e. There was 1 (KQ) that for the first few editions seemed to be solely focused on the flavour of 3e and PF, but has since broadened that to include 4e. It just reduces the direct usefulness to me, and that makes the economics of purchasing it a little less clear. It isn't that I have some sort of anti-4e bias - I just happen to want to pay for 3e and PF stuff as they are what I play.

 

[Jack99]

I guess you guys have issues with each other! Regardless of personal issues, I think it's a fair point. If 4E content goes up, there's less Pathfinder content and 3.5 content. I'm a fan of the latter two, even though I'm not complaining about the 4E articles and increasing content.

Sorry, I have no idea who he is. Just pointing out that seeing the whole edition issue as a competition will never do you any good.

This is precisely why people that play Pathfinder and 3rd edition, are actually anti-4e. It is not so much there is a new edition, it is that the edition they played is losing all of its support.

That's odd. Not at all my impression. 99% of the people I hear about who still play the old editions are pretty cool about 4e. You are the minority (the haters).

 

[Mournblade94]

That's odd. Not at all my impression. 99% of the people I hear about who still play the old editions are pretty cool about 4e. You are the minority (the haters).

More than likely I have been labeled with many names that are unflattering.

Can't say for sure whether or not I am in a minority, but being labeled a hater or contrarion in any way is certainly nothing with which I would disagree.

With that said, if there were 4e articles in KQ I would not disown the title, but there are plenty of resources for 4e already. If the magazine went with a 4e flavor I would most likely stop reading it.

 

[Zaukrie]

I totally understand why someone would buy less or more of a product based on the edition it supported.

All I'll say about this discussion is that a nice mix and lots of flavor that can be applied to both editions will make me more likely to subscribe. As for the 4E adventure (wrath of the river king), it reads great. We've started to play it in my group, but I imagine I'll be making some changes to it, as it doesn't completely fit my plan as written, and since Matthew is reading this thread (or was), that's all I'll say on that for now.