Kobold Quarterly and 4e

[TerraDave]

I think this thread is showing what the problem is....

I don't think KQ could ever, or should ever, be the crunch-hose DDI is. But I like the combination of edition neutral material (including, but not just, the interviews, which have stuff you will never see on the D&D webpage), the different spin on the 4E crunch, and the inovative take in a lot of the 3E articles, which means it can still be source of ideas.

Of course, I wouldn't mind more 4E specific articles either.

 

[Jack99]

More than likely I have been labeled with many names that are unflattering.

Can't say for sure whether or not I am in a minority, but being labeled a hater or contrarion in any way is certainly nothing with which I would disagree.

Yeah, well I do not know of anyone who has labeled you anything. You pretty much took care of that all by yourself with this:

This is precisely why people that play Pathfinder and 3rd edition, are actually anti-4e. It is not so much there is a new edition, it is that the edition they played is losing all of its support.

Anyway, after some thinking, I think TD has a really good point. I have simply had the wrong expectations from KQ. It will never be Dragon version 2, but that doesn't mean it can't be useful still.

/consider.

 

[ShinHakkaider]

Stop seeing everything as a competition. Besides, this is hardly the thread to discuss this particular issue.

Competition? What are you even talking about?

I want to continue having support for the game that I play, that's 3.5 / Pathfinder. There are in fact 3 periodicals that support 4E. I don't support or play 4E so it would make sense that I'd like to hold on to support for the game that I play.

I didnt attack 4E and I didnt attack anyone who plays 4E. I just voiced that I'd like to keep the only magazine that supports the game that I play. If you have a particular problem with me I'd like to know what it is. You can PM me if need be.

 

[Monkey King]

Threadjacking a little, no matter which edition you prefer, KQ is currently offering free sets of Q-Workshop dice to all new subscribers.

Which does make it a good time to subscribe.

 

[darjr]

I subscribed to KQ before the first printing of issue one ran out. I love it.

I went 4e all in, I love it. I do still love 3.5. I was one of those guys gently nudging for a 4e KQ. Then I started to feel a wee bit guilty.

I let my subscription lapse. Let the current 3.5/Pathfinder players have a wonderful resource.

I also think that such a great thing, supporting a competitive version of D&D, in print, could only be good.

I think the greatest thing about KQ is the fluff but I make no bones about the importance of supporting crunch.

And the Q-workshop dice sure do rock.

 

[Piratecat]

Discuss it without the vitriol, please. Thanks!

 

[mach1.9pants]

Well in my personal experience the reason people stop supporting something when it gives to much/not enough 4E/3E/SIF/whatever is that they are lazy! Well I am and I prefer to have some one else do all the math crunchy stuff

So If KQ is going to include more 4E (or keep a similar level to now) I will continue my subscription. I was into RiverKing and am in MountainKing, and got a 3 issue to see what it was like having so much enjoyed RK.

So for me, keep up the 4E work! At the moment anyway, I may switch to GURPs so I can get PDFs LOL...

 

[Jack99]

Competition? What are you even talking about?

I want to continue having support for the game that I play, that's 3.5 / Pathfinder. There are in fact 3 periodicals that support 4E. I don't support or play 4E so it would make sense that I'd like to hold on to support for the game that I play.

I didnt attack 4E and I didnt attack anyone who plays 4E. I just voiced that I'd like to keep the only magazine that supports the game that I play. If you have a particular problem with me I'd like to know what it is. You can PM me if need be.

I think we just got off the wrong foot. I have no issues with you. My comment regarding competition was just the fact that you seem to put a lot of weight on who had the most magazines supporting their edition. Nothing else. Although if you count stuff like Dungeon for 4e, you should really count Pathfinder for you guys

 

[Hunter In Darkness]

Well in my personal experience the reason people stop supporting something when it gives to much/not enough 4E/3E/SIF/whatever is that they are lazy! Well I am and I prefer to have some one else do all the math crunchy stuff
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I would not say lazy, but some of us have limited game funds. I have no hate for 4e , but I have no use for it either. So why would I spend my limited money on a mag supporting a game I do not play? I don't mean an article here or there, but once the mag becomes half or more 4e I really can't justify spending my limited funds on it. That's not malice, it's not being lazy it is just how things are.

 

[Monkey King]

I don't mean an article here or there, but once the mag becomes half or more 4e I really can't justify spending my limited funds on it. That's not malice, it's not being lazy it is just how things are.

Seems fair to me. If you go by articles, the magazine is currently about 25% 4E. That doesn't count the system-neutral articles.

That number might go up or down, depending on letters from subscribers, on what submissions we receive, and so on.