evilbob
Adventurer
KD, I don't understand your logic or your example (+1 to hit > +3 damage), but I think I might be getting your point...
If we allowed expertise feats (currently forbidden), changed the +1/2/3 house rule bonus to a feat bonus (currently untyped), then people could take the expertise feats if they wanted to get the extra features - they just wouldn't stack. It's effectively the same as allowing the feats with no house rule, but it fixes the problem with people who have multiple weapons/implements/attacks (since they get the +1 feat bonus to everything), AND it doesn't force anyone to take the feats since they'll get the bonus anyway.
Of all solutions, I hate this the least!
The only sticky point is level 4. Currently, I'm pretty sure 100% of PCs made on LEB start at level 4. If we changed the house rules to exactly what I said above, someone could take an expertise feat before level 5 and get the +1 bonus for a single level before the auto-rule kicked in. Obviously this doesn't bother me (as stated above), but it might make others raise an eyebrow.
If we allowed expertise feats (currently forbidden), changed the +1/2/3 house rule bonus to a feat bonus (currently untyped), then people could take the expertise feats if they wanted to get the extra features - they just wouldn't stack. It's effectively the same as allowing the feats with no house rule, but it fixes the problem with people who have multiple weapons/implements/attacks (since they get the +1 feat bonus to everything), AND it doesn't force anyone to take the feats since they'll get the bonus anyway.
Of all solutions, I hate this the least!

The only sticky point is level 4. Currently, I'm pretty sure 100% of PCs made on LEB start at level 4. If we changed the house rules to exactly what I said above, someone could take an expertise feat before level 5 and get the +1 bonus for a single level before the auto-rule kicked in. Obviously this doesn't bother me (as stated above), but it might make others raise an eyebrow.