Let's Forget the Forgotten Realms

[avin]

My first D&D character was a Bladesinger, who lived in Faerun.

Then I played BG (which is a great game, but pales compared do Planescape or Fallout. Bioware < Black Isle) and IWD. After that NWN and NWN2.

I bought FRCS3E and run a game set in Thesk.

I came across Planescape far later and it was like a nuclear bomb in my gaming head, so I don't think the first setting you are exposed necessarly means your favorite...

One thing is for sure: Wizards will never drop FR in the name of Greyhawk. IMO Greyhawk appeals only to older fans who had luck and could play earlier editions of D&D... but FR, nostalgia aside, it's a better "commercial" product.

 

[Aeolius]

"MOAR GRAYHAUK, LESS REALMS" is pretty much a war chant trying to start a war alliance between 1e and 3e players versus 2e and 4e players.

Which means 5e and Greyhawk belong to the leap-grognards who skipped happily from 1e to 3e and did not adopt the 4e ruleset? I'm in!

 

[Aeolius]

(like I care about Doctor Who, I guess - he's a friggin' Time Lord and Elminster wouldn't stand a chance: he laughs at your 3E Time Stop exploit)

C'mon... a show of hands, now... how many folks have worked Chronomancy, regeneration, and/or police boxes into the D&D games?

Okay, okay... so the Chronomancer is the mechanatrix daughter of a night hag, the regenerating character is an incarnum-based reef hag, and the TARDIS is a gargantuan spelljamming oyster "Shellship" (though I do have an apothecary that's bigger on the inside than it is on the outside).... same same

 

[Morrus]

But do you really want more Greyhawk over, say, a new setting?

I do.

Don't we have enough Greyhawk already?

I do not feel so.

I get that it is fun and nice and pleasurable to see one's favorite setting get a fancy new book, but I honestly don't understand the preference of a re-boot over a new setting.

Yeah; no way WotC can please everyone. Well, unless they think of something really clever.

 

[Glade Riven]

Greyhawk, because it was butchered for 3e and skipped over for 4e, would be a brand new setting for me, and anybody who has come onboard in the last 15 years.

Here's hoping you get your wish, and don't suffer the curse of the monkey's paw in the process.

 

[Mercurius]

I wrote about my "proposal" right here. The short version is that I think WotC should create a new setting as core but support legacy editions through Dragon articles, the return of PDFs, and possible supplements and adventures.

 

[Nivenus]

But do you really want more Greyhawk over, say, a new setting? Don't we have enough Greyhawk already?

I get that it is fun and nice and pleasurable to see one's favorite setting get a fancy new book, but I honestly don't understand the preference of a re-boot over a new setting. I'm always curious about what sort of new rabbits WotC can pull out of a hat; given that Nentir Vale has never been fully developed, it has been eight years since WotC published a major new setting with Eberron back in 2004.

More on this in another thread...

A new setting sounds good in principle, but when it comes down to it, do we really need another one, particularly one that fills the slot Greyhawk would? After all, that's what Points of Light was supposed to be to a certain extent, but from what I'm hearing most people were largely unsatisfied with the setting (with a few exceptions).

New settings work better if they bring something unique but the core setting, by it's very nature, kind of needs to be generic and easily pliable. Greyhawk is that. Points of Light is that. But do we need another setting in their mold?

 

[howandwhy99]

Forgotten Realms should be published differently than all other campaign settings for D&D. It's there to support the novel line, not grow one's own gaming world.

Greyhawk would be awesome. Make it < 60 pages and have page #1 all about Greyhawk's unique trees.

 

[rounser]

I repeat to the Greyhawk fans (of which I am one): After what current time WOTC did to FR, do you really want them messing with Greyhawk?

The pre-spellplaguemess Forgotten Realms were more commercially viable than Greyhawk is in it's current state, and they performed major surgery that left the patient in a critical condition anyway. And that was before everyone seemed to get laid off, so now they may be understaffed and demoralized as well....trying to update Greyhawk whilst somehow producing a whole new edition.

Now, if current WOTC cannot abide inoffensive places like Halruua and Mulhorand in their quest to reboot a setting, what do you think they'd do to a setting with names on the map like Geoff and Frost Barbarians? The 3E gazetteer was a beaut book, the setting got off well that round (especially the bit on Blackmoor), but that was then. Do you want them retconning in kingdoms populated by whatever is the race of the month?

Think about it. I'd just keep quiet and hope they continue to ignore Greyhawk if I were you.

 

[Aeolius]

Greyhawk would be awesome. Make it < 60 pages and have page #1 all about Greyhawk's unique trees.

"Leave the Usk ALOOOOOOONE!"