LG vs. N: Lawful Good Victorious!

[Infiniti2000]

OOC: So, just to be clear, before approaching Leon, Mongo would be equally willing to fight any new Neutral creatures, right? Btw, the two charms on Mongo are currently suppressed if he is within Leon's 20ft radius. Mongo will have to decide for himself who's the real enemy in this arena now.

OOC2: Can Leon do a targeted dispel magic on the charm person cast by the rilmani? If not, what would he need to do to target that spell?

 

[PJSlavner]

If A charms B
And C attacks A
Does B need to be asked to do something?
Won't B at least defend A from C?

It does strike me as a bit of a change from previous charms, though if I'm ignoring something like INT level, maybe that has an effect. Just seems different to me.

But C also charmed B, so B will not attack C. Stormongo already decided to sit out while his two good friends fought each other (he did not see getting in the way and getting harmed himself as a viable option), and he has an opponent he is willing to fight.

OOC: So, just to be clear, before approaching Leon, Mongo would be equally willing to fight any new Neutral creatures, right? Btw, the two charms on Mongo are currently suppressed if he is within Leon's 20ft radius. Mongo will have to decide for himself who's the real enemy in this arena now.

Stormongo's default is to fight Lawful Good creatures. If he were charmed by a Lawful Good creature, he will fight Neutrals to protect his Lawful Good friend, unless also charmed by the Neutral creature.

With the charms suppressed, Stormongo will go with his default and fight Lawful Good. Leon happens to be the closest Lawful Good creature (as determined by what side of the arena he entered from). I should check to see if Stormongo went through Minx's aura to get to Leon. In that case, he would have attacked her. No, he did not.

OOC2: Can Leon do a targeted dispel magic on the charm person cast by the rilmani? If not, what would he need to do to target that spell?

Leon cannot differentiate between the charm cast by Silver Dude and that of Minx, so he would not know which to target. He could target a charm monster (as identified with Spellcraft) on Stormongo, and it would be randomly determined which of the two were targeted, or he could target Stormongo, with every spell on Stormongo possibly dispelled.

 

[Infiniti2000]

OOC: They are two types of spells/spell-like abilities, though, one is charm monster and the other is mass charm monster, right? While watching the combat outside the arena, he might have noticed, via spellcraft, that they each cast a specific spell. Of course, logically he might conclude that he cannot even hope to dispel a mass charm monster, so while we're at it, does Leon know anything in particular about the Rilmani and Elemental? Like the rilmani's caster level for his abilities?

Edit: Anyone else think that mass charm monster at will is insanely powerful?

 

[ugulu]

Ah!! Thanks PJS - I was missing the 2nd charm that silver dude layed on Mongo - sorry about that. I'll get the whiteboard out next time.
Poor mongo.
Poor us.

Can Leon burrow?

 

[PJSlavner]

Leon knows nothing about Silver Dude other than what he has observed. Because they were cast as spell-like abilities, Leon cannot use Spellcraft to determine what they cast, but nice try. I agree about mass charm monster at will being kind of sickening.

Actually, Leon only successfully Spellcrafted charm monster, not mass charm monster. Thanks for catching that.

Leon recognizes Stormongo as a storm elemental, and knows its elemental traits; that it heals damage from electrical and sonic attacks; flying creatures attack it at a penalty; it can shock nearby creatures with nonlethal damage; and it can periodically use a thunder and lightning attack that does a whole lotta damage.

 

[Infiniti2000]

OOC: You can't spellcraft a spell-like ability as it's cast? Sunofa...! Actually, it seems like you can't even identify a spell-like ability effect, either. Both lines in Spellcraft use the word 'spell'. After rereading this skill carefully, I'd say he can't do it all. Learn something new all the time. Btw, sorry about the huge diversion.

So, not knowing what was done to Mongo, though highly suspecting charm monster (he's not dumb), but not being a particularly powerful spellcaster, Leon will cast resist energy (electricity) and turn to the northeast, fly to 105N65E10Z and turn to be heading southeast.

 

[PJSlavner]

OOC: I would allow a Spellcraft check to identify a spell-like ability effect, because a spell-like ability works just like a spell. Spellcraft cannot identify a spell-like ability as it is being cast because there is no clue as to what the spellcaster is doing.

By the way, which of Leon's vertices (NE, NW, SE, SW) do I use to determine the center of the magic circle? Minx, you can answer that question also, please.

Minx, you are up next.

 

[Gansk]

By the way, which of Leon's vertices (NE, NW, SE, SW) do I use to determine the center of the magic circle? Minx, you can answer that question also, please.

Doesn't the circle extend 10 feet from each vertex? So if you are medium creature, it extends 12.5 feet from the center of your square, 15 feet if you are a large creature, etc? The 10 feet is measured out from the edge of the caster rather than from the center of the caster, right? Otherwise it does no good for a gargantuan caster.

 

[ugulu]

OOC: I think that's a side-effect of being big - you better be able to metamagic your spells or else pick something else - the effect doesn't get bigger because the caster is bigger.

OOC: Mass Charm Monster, 8th-level spell, at Will? CR14 my butt!!!!

HexaMinx, becoming upset at this disorderly mess, concentrates and six hands begin to glow with an otherworldly light. Then she moves to 100n 80e 5z and touches the silver dude in hopes of helping her breathren [Plane Shift to random plane].

 

[Gansk]

OOC: I think that's a side-effect of being big - you better be able to metamagic your spells or else pick something else - the effect doesn't get bigger because the caster is bigger.

Magic Circle's area of effect is an emanation from the touched creature. I would treat that the same as reach (in this case, 20 feet).