Lord Crusan Art

[Kilmore]

I admit I may sound a little harsh sometimes, but it certainly isn't because I enjoy cutting people to pieces. Unfortunately, even the best criticism hurts, and I admit I'm not the best at giving it. And I really don't feel that not saying anything if not saying anything nice is going to help anybody.

I do have to say (from what I know about it) that Poser requires AT LEAST as much talent, artistry and work to create a successful picture, if not more! That's why I'm impressed with your work in this gallery. It just seems to me that a lot of people just don't get that. In a lot of cases what I've seen, some people sink a few weeks or more into the program and expect it to churn out a Rembrant for them. Maybe they're just trying to scratch that itch. More power to them. Maybe they are learning more about design as they go. That's great. I'm just going to have to see that little spark lit up before I start paying attention.

Anyways, I'm looking back at my original post, and hm... I didn't express myself very well, did I? My apologies.

Now to the new pics! I think you are really showing what you can do with these programs, and what they can do for you. I love the dramatic lighting. I especially like the lively characterizations of the figures. Definitely more flesh and blood than most Poser renderings I've seen. One little problem with "Keeper of the Gate", with all the little details and the different colors, it does seem a little kaleidoscopic and hard to read. But I'm thinking you probably had to shrink it to post it in here, and that probably didn't help.

I was never aware of the sketch feature in Poser. Um, I'm not sure it could be of much use to me, though. It would probably drive me nuts trying to get it right while I could just knock it out in a few minutes on pencil and paper.

 

[Ferret]

Nice to see you here. I'll finish the list soon.

 

[crater]

I think that "Dark Lord Kaldanar" is one of the best recommendations for Poser that I've seen! I have never tried the program, but my gripe with Poser however is when it comes to the whole figure, it seems to take a lot of work to humanize them and take away the manequin look. I guess in this way it's just like any other medium, digital or not. You have done a good job!

Also, check out these guys: http://www.dreamlandworks.com/gallery/albums.php
Theres something there for anybody using digital media.

 

[Lord Crusan]

Kilmore no need to apologize!
Like i said before ur comments are helpful and funny sometimes. I guess that's why they sound like ur mocking the artist.
Iam sure u dont mean too. Thats just u !
If ur comment would help the artist i see no problem with commenting even if its just to say u like the pic.
The problem is when u tell the artist they suck. Not that u did that iam taking about others.
By the way the long post above was an old situation not direct towards u.
I just thought u would like to know where i stood on the topic of poser not been art.

As for "the Keeper of the Gate" I agree with u it does look very weird with the colors.
Doing the scketch render would drive u nuts. It sure drives me nuts and i guess thats why u dont see alot of them out there.
Like i said before u cant duplicate hand skill like urs.

 

[Suldulin]

 

[Rhombus]

[note: no, I'm not looking to start a fight]

If you think there's an nasty anti-Poser (and anti-Bryce, they almost always get lumped together) sentiment with traditional artists you should witness some of the vitriol and venom that comes from 3D artists.

The real bone of contention is creation of content - ie, models. Most 3D artists have nothing against Poser or Bryce as secondary tools, useful in their own ways, but can get nasty about people who call themselves 3D artists who use either prog as their primary tool. That's not to say that these progs can't be used to create art but without creating the content from the ground up most 3D artists will never consider it 3D art. Unless you've pulled off something AMAZING never post any Poser images to a 3D art forum unless you've got asbestos underwear. Same goes for Bryce users.

The best way to think of it is like the 'division' between Photographic arts and 'Traditional' arts. In fact, some of the more polite/politic 3D artists refer to Poser work as 'virtual photography' is recognition of the skill and artistry that it can be used with. They still won't budge on the whole "not creating their own content" matter, though.

(BTW, kudos for taking the plunge to learn a full 3D suite like MAX)

All that said, I'm impressed with your work. I'm guessing you're using one of the newer versions and/or have some amazing talent because I'm usually pretty good at spotting poser stuff. I can't wait to see what you start producing with the power of something like MAX at your fingertips.

 

[Lord Crusan]

Rhombus I don't really know what u mean! It's been my experience that for the most part 3d artist aren't that hostel towards Poser user as a matter a fact. I know a couple of 3d
artist which I do textures for them sometimes and they have done some stuff for me.
On an above post I have a link for a site called Renderosity this community is an even place there's just as much poser artist and 3d content makers.
If u where to visit their chat room there's almost all the time a conversation going between 3d modeler and poser artist working with each other.

Most of content for sale on that site is collaboration between the two mediums. Cause the truth is a 3d model is just a plastic figure without the texture and at the end they cant exist without the other.

Even the greatest model needs the right texture and texture is nothing without a great model.
In my book they need each other.


I use poser 4 and as for Max its a hard prog when u try to self teach urself. I have found that the spontaneity of art in my opinion is lost with all its technicality.
But hey someone has to make the paint and the brushes. Right


Well here's another images.


"Viratram"

Suldulin

 

[Kip the Bold]

Hey, great pics! Keep up the good work!

Just to throw my 2 cents into the Poser/3d vs. non-3d debate, I think the computer is just another tool, and if it can be used to make art, GREAT! Sure, people may use pre-made models and such, but it still comes down to the individual artist how they compose/color/light their particular piece. Heck, I don't mix my own paints from scratch, and I'm sure some painters from 100 years ago would think less of me becuase of that.
I personally would love to work with a good 3d prog, but they are considerably out of my price range at the moment, especially after you add all the good plug-ins and such.

 

[Lord Crusan]

Thanks Kip. Ur another with great hand skills.
Its a great tool.

 

[Liquide]

Hi mate and welcome to the realms , nice to see that you finally got around to post your pics here. And you are good just look at what people think of your art mate.

Oh and once again welcome.

(Goblin Witch is my favorite)