D&D General LORE QUESTION: Elder Elemental Evil Eye

[embee]

What is the relationship of Tharizdun, Gaunadaur, and Juiblex? Is there one?

I'm trying to come up with some kind of long-term overarching Big Bad and also want to bring in some eldritch horror stuff like aboleths and illithids. From some of my digging, I believe that Gaunadaur is tied to the Far Realm and that he (it?) may have usurped either Tharizdun or Juiblex or maybe both. Which leads me to think of maybe having them all be some kind of tripartite god with Tharzidun and Juiblex being aspects of Gaundadaur.

Like long-term, I'm thinking of having stones from the Vast Gate resurfacing in various places and then they'll be used to open a portal to the Far Realm (tracking down McGuffins being tried and true).

Am I completely off-track in my thinking? Does this work? Am I nuts for thinking this could work?

Answers are welcome.

(be gentle)

 

[Paul Farquhar]

What do you mean by this? Tharzidun is listed in the DMG. Is the issue that it hasn't been in a specific adventure?

He is in GoS - The Styles. Not in person of course, but his cult is.

 

[embee]

What do you mean by this? Tharzidun is listed in the DMG. Is the issue that it hasn't been in a specific adventure?

Really? What page?

 

[Rob Kuntz]

What is the relationship of Tharizdun, Gaunadaur, and Juiblex? Is there one?

I'm trying to come up with some kind of long-term overarching Big Bad and also want to bring in some eldritch horror stuff like aboleths and illithids. From some of my digging, I believe that Gaunadaur is tied to the Far Realm and that he (it?) may have usurped either Tharizdun or Juiblex or maybe both. Which leads me to think of maybe having them all be some kind of tripartite god with Tharzidun and Juiblex being aspects of Gaundadaur.

Like long-term, I'm thinking of having stones from the Vast Gate resurfacing in various places and then they'll be used to open a portal to the Far Realm (tracking down McGuffins being tried and true).

Am I completely off-track in my thinking? Does this work? Am I nuts for thinking this could work?

Answers are welcome.

(be gentle)

It's Fantasy. Make it so...

 

[dave2008]

Really? What page?

Page 10, Dawn War Deities table

Nothing special, it is just listed with the rest of the Deities (with Alignment, Domains, and symbol).

Also, he is evidently mentioned in Ghost of Saltmarsh, but I don't have that one.

 

[dave2008]

FYI, on the Tharzidun wiki page, it says it has been mentioned several times in 5e:

Dungeons & Dragons 5th edition (2014–present)[edit]​

Tharizdun is mentioned twice in the Player's Handbook (2014). He is listed as an example Pact Patron for warlocks who make a Pact with a Great Old One.[20]:109 He is then listed under the Greyhawk pantheon as Tharizdun, god of eternal darkness, CE, with the Trickery Domain and either a dark spiral or inverted ziggurat as his holy symbols.[20]:295 Tharizdun is also mentioned in the Dungeon Master's Guide (2014), this time listed as a member of the Dawn War pantheon in the Nentir Vale setting and is listed as Tharizdun, god of madness, CE, with the Trickery Domain and a jagged counter-clockwise spiral is listed as his holy symbol.[21]:10

In the adventure module Princes of the Apocalypse (2015), the four different elemental cults are attempting to release Tharizdun.[22][23]

Tharizdun is listed as one of the elder evils in Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes (2018).[citation needed] Tharizdun is listed as a member of the Betrayer Gods for the Exandria setting in the sourcebook Explorer's Guide to Wildemount (2020) where he is also known as the Chained Oblivion. His provinces are darkness and destruction.[24]

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[embee]

Page 10, Dawn War Deities table

Nothing special, it is just listed with the rest of the Deities (with Alignment, Domains, and symbol).

Also, he is evidently mentioned in Ghost of Saltmarsh, but I don't have that one.

Thanks, y'all.ill check it out.

I've got some ideas rolling around in my old noodle and am looking forward to putting them down.

I really appreciate all of the input and guidance.

 

[Matrix Sorcica]

There's a relevant and great recent thread on rpg.net: What's the deal with the Elder Elemental Eye?