Loremaster: Secrets

[Corsair]

Secret: At 1st level and every two levels higher than 1st (3rd, 5th, 7th, and 9th), the loremaster chooses one secret from the table below. Her level plus Intelligence modifier determines the total number of secrets she can choose. She can’t choose the same secret twice.

I've seen some uses of this class in the WotC CO forum where the character takes the secret Applicable Knowledge multiple times, with the reasoning that each feat is a different secret. None of the other posters there challenged the OP on that, which I thought odd since they are generally pretty nit-picky there.

Is that a legitimate use of the the Applicable Knowledge secret, or can you only ever use it to get one feat ever?

 

[Hypersmurf]

Is that a legitimate use of the the Applicable Knowledge secret, or can you only ever use it to get one feat ever?

Applicable Knowledge is one secret, which can only be taken once. You use it to gain one feat.

Similarly, Instant Mastery, Newfound Arcana, and More Newfound Arcana are each single secrets, not a potentially infinite number of different secrets each.

-Hyp.

 

[Dracandross]

I'd say it's disallowed. You can get secret only once: Applicable Knowledge is secret, it's effect is a feat. You can take any feat twice if it specially says so, but thats a different thing

-Dracandross

 

[Thanee]

She can’t choose the same secret twice.

The new feat is the effect of the secret, not the secret itself.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Corsair]

That's what I thought. Thank you for the verification.

 

[Question]

Link me to the thread in the character optimization boards?

 

[Corsair]

I don't remember where exactly it was, it was a month or two ago. It only came up again because I was talking to a fellow player about my loremaster and he asked if I could take many many feats.

 

[Corsair]

Found it again!

Actually it is one of the example wizards in the 3.5 Build FAQ.

Thread: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=207643
Post: http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=2947302

 

[Thanee]

Funny.

Q: What are good Break-Offs when using the Wizard in a multiclass build?
A: None, never multiclass, simple as that.

If you need concentration you normally made something wrong...

Character Optimization Board 3.5 Build FAQ

I. Sources
a. Most Important Source is Tome and Blood

Bye
Thanee

 

[Hypersmurf]

Actually it is one of the example wizards in the 3.5 Build FAQ.

Yeah, as far as I can tell, that's not valid.

-Hyp.