Lost: 11/1/06

[Cthulhudrew]

It's sad to see Eko go, but I'm more curious as to why smokey killed him now, and not before, when they met face to face. I'm hoping there's a good reason, rather than the deaths just being random.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn it is somehow connected with the whole Others "good/bad" list idea. The last thing he shared with Smokey before he was crushed was that he wasn't repentant for the deaths he'd caused in the past. The previous time that he and Smokey had met, there were flashes of images of Eko's past in the creature, and he seemed to still harbor dreams of repentance at the time (the "Jesus stick", working on the church, etc.)

Which was actually one of the things that bugged me here, that Eko didn't seem as repentant as he did all of last season.

Anyway, I was disappointed in such a waste of a good character. Eko brought so much to the show last season, and he had so much more to contribute, unlike, say... Claire, who- now that she's given birth- is about as useful to the show as she had been before. Which is to say, not at all.

The life and death of Eko episode seemed rather pointless, all told. I liked it (aside from the death, that is) but it just didn't seem to be necessary to end it like this.

Actually, just one more gripe about this episode. In the beginning, when Juliette sees Jack on the beach, she asks "He let you come outside?" I just wanted Jack to say something smartassed like, "No, I broke out and cleverly disguised myself as one of the mourners at the funeral." I can't stand it in real life when people ask questions to which the answers are self-evident, and especially in television when words are at a premium.

As to Jack and Ben and Juliette- frankly, I think the best thing Jack can do at this point is refuse to do the surgery. On the one hand, if he does it and saves Ben's life, he's still a prisoner and stuck with Ben. On the other, if he does it and kills Ben, then he's left with Juliette who is as much an unknown quantity as Ben. Clearly, she is not above attempting to manipulate others (even if she makes an effort to be up front about it), and I find it pretty reprehensible for someone to try and manipulate someone else into what is, basically, murder- regardless of the character of the person being murdered. She's no better than Ben as far as I can tell.

 

[RigaMortus2]

Is next week the last episode before the 147 week break?

Yeah. I can't wait for next week. Going to be a Kate flashback, and can't wait to see Nathan Fillion guest star

 

[TogaMario]

It would be amazingly funny if Benry wasn't lying when he said he wasn't a badguy, but Juliet certainly seems like the clever type herself. I think that Juliet wants command, and she was just waiting for Benry to be caught off-guard by a situation. Maybe it's her way of payback for Benry shrugging her possible loss of life when Jack tried to escape. Oh, it's gettin' good.

Strangely, I was very satisfied when Eko sliced up those wannabe's in the church. His vigilante streak was really popular with me and my wife. A very deep chaotic good character.

I'm also under the impression that the new Lost cast additions are trying too hard to establish characters too early, with too little information and screen time.

I'm curious how Sawyer's going to act now that he's been shown the reveals of last episode, and if it'll be the way Benry intended.

 

[Hand of Evil]

I was happy to see Jack wrote at his IQ and thinking. Jullette is a killer but is she evil, I think Benry is and I do think she want control, does she want Benry dead maybe.

Ben by telling Jack that she looked like his wife cause the connection, it was a trigger. I just don't trust the group. I don't think Jack can kill anyone, he is a healer.

As for the two newbies; just there is bounce ideas off of and see if their threads work in case they have to get rid of another person or two. You can always have money issues with a star or conflicts. Bringing in a couple of news characters, means not everything is going to happen to the central cast and you can kill someone.

 

[xmanii]

Jack has killed though, when he killed the marshal.

 

[Ambrus]

Jack has killed though, when he killed the marshal.

Though Jack first tried everything he could to save the marshal. In the end it was a mercy killing. Though in the preview for next week they showed Jack refusing to help Benry (and being rather cruel about it as well).

 

[EricNoah]

That was a great episode -- good to have some of the supernatural stuff back in the picture. And the scene with the TV/video was awesome. I don't mind characters dying -- they seem to have a way of coming back, at least in flashbacks or whatever.

I feel like the three captives have a hitherto unrevealed ace up their sleeves -- just before the bags went over their heads in the last season finale they gave each other this look. And Jack had just prior given a speech about how he wouldn't lead them over there without a plan. And I thought Michael gave them a look too.

The hiatus is going to suuuuuuuck!

 

[EricNoah]

Though in the preview for next week they showed Jack refusing to help Benry (and being rather cruel about it as well).

I bet that's just to keep it looking realistic -- so he doesn't look "too eager".

 

[RangerWickett]

If the actor wanted to leave, I'm okay with that, but I didn't want Eko to die. Also, it bugs me that if he hadn't gone chasing after his brother's apparition the second time, he would have survived. The smoke monster only attacked him when he pursued.

Dammit, they need to sign longer contracts with these f***in' actors. And they have dropped the ball several times by hinting at awesome things ("We're going to have a Locke problem," "I need you to help make me an army," etc.) and then not following through.

What would have made me happy with this episode would have been Locke getting to Eko while the monster is still attacking him, and having something dramatic happen there.

And which Emi's were hallucinations and which were smoke monsters? The one in the tent? The one amid the flowers? And why did the writers go to all the trouble to have Locke dramatically rescue Eko only to have him go out like this? At the very least, let Eko win some points for the home team. Grar. I gnash my teeth.

I've liked all the episodes this seasons, except this one.

 

[Taelorn76]

I think this is the first time we've seen the smoke get really really violent. It grabbed Locke before, but after seeing what it did to Eko, I think it's safe to say that smokey the monster crushed the airplane pilot to a pulp in the very first episode. Which was a main theory all along, but now that theory just grew stronger.

It's sad to see Eko go, but I'm more curious as to why smokey killed him now, and not before, when they met face to face. I'm hoping there's a good reason, rather than the deaths just being random.

This episode also seems to strongly imply that smokey the monster may be responsible for the hallucinations on the island - from Eko's brother to Jack's dad and probably even Kate's horse. And again, I'm really hoping there's a good answer as to "how" and "why" this thing is doing all of this. Because the ultimate revelation of this monster is going to either make or break this show for alot of people.

I think that smokey didn't kill him before because the was a change he would confess his sins, remember it showed his flashes of his past in the smoke. When he knelt before his brother and said "I have no sins to confess" you could tell it pissed off smokey. I do agree with you that if they don't explain smokey right it will break the show for alot of people. Which I think will be hard for the writers since they say every thing on this island can be explained in a scientific way.