Lost: 11/1/06

[Barak]

Except that the X-rays were in the scrubbing in room while Jack was cuffed to the gurney with the body. Jack only saw the X-rays for the few minutes he was scrubbing in.

Plus.. What, they planned on having that chick get shot just to have a plausible excuse to bring Jack there?

 

[Taelorn76]

Speaking of the children and the other survivors the others capture or kidnapped. There has not been a single sign of them at all. Even in the background.

Now that I think about it, Sawyer and Kate were not the only ones breaking rocks a few weeks back. Did anyone notice if the stewardess was among them or any of the children?

 

[Taelorn76]

Plus.. What, they planned on having that chick get shot just to have a plausible excuse to bring Jack there?

Exactly, but then again this is the others we are talking about here. Henry probably figured there might be a casualty, not her in specific, just some one.

 

[GreyWanderer]

The Creature

When they brought Jack to the beach in that robe, I figured they either worshiped Cthuhlu, or were Scientologists.

Anyway, I really thought Yemi/the cloud was Lucifer or Death.

Grey

 

[Cthulhudrew]

Except that the X-rays were in the scrubbing in room while Jack was cuffed to the gurney with the body. Jack only saw the X-rays for the few minutes he was scrubbing in.

Ah- well, it wouldn't have fit with the little discussion between Juliette and Ben anyway.

 

[RigaMortus2]

I don't know that he seems like a better person- after all, he savagely beat Sawyer a couple of episodes ago, has had the castaways imprisoned and separated, admits to formulating a plan to manipulate them, and is the one who ordered Michael to take out Ana Lucia. At this point, I don't think either of them is a very good person, frankly.

Ben/Henry never told/forced Michael to kill Anna-Lucia. Michael did that on his own. In fact, Michael doesn't even meet Ben/Henry untilAFTER he kills Anna Lucia (in order to rescue him).

 

[RigaMortus2]

You know- I just had a thought. I wonder if the child kidnapping thing (Claire's baby, Alex) might have something to do with the Others needing to keep viable DNA sources in their little community. All this talk about the Shannon/Boone "incest" got me to thinking about the Others and degenerative disorders from inbreeding. If they kidnap children and indoctrinate them into their way of life from birth, then they keep gene pools from stagnating.

The theory is that the Others are sterile, and therefore can't have kids of their own, so they kidnap children to continue their utopian society. Why do you think they have a fertility doctor?

 

[RigaMortus2]

Anyone else make the connection to the scene where Eko goes to the wreckage and removes the rock blocking the entrance to the plane where his brother's corpse was. And his brother's corpse was gone. Does this remind you of a certain historical figure who also rose from the dead?

Surprised no one mentioned this yet (unless I missed it).

 

[The Grumpy Celt]

But once he found out, yeah- I heartily agree that it would have been a much better idea to just go over to the Lostaways with open arms, and he probably could have gotten Jack to operate then and there.

Repeating Myself From Above: The actions of The Others, make sense – or as much sense as they can – if you realize they are operating like some kind of cult. On the face of it they are not being logical. However, logic is not an issue for them. Ideological obedience is important to them. Benry’s the one with the tumor, the one who is dying. Yet it was so important to him that Jack do the surgery because Benry had broken Jack, they he had people killed, kidnapped and put his own life in jeopardy.

Everyone’s lives matter to the Others only in so far as they play a part in Benry’s vanity melodrama, with him in the unquestionable role of God the Judge and Executioner.

…and is the one who ordered Michael to take out Ana Lucia.

Actually, that was never part of Benry’s plan. He expressly tells Michael on the docks that he was unhappy about the deal made. It was Miss Klue – absent this season, oddly enough – who made the deal with Mike to get Jack, Kate, Sawyer and Hurley. And that deal never included the elimination of Ana. This is revealed in Three Minutes and Live Together, Die Alone.

Shannon was a lot more than a "kept woman." She was a manipulator, who intentionally deceived and used men's feelings for her to get what she wanted. Pretty reprehensible in my book.

Maybe. But she was not that person when she died.

…then the others on the beach (did he have to kill them)…

Most vexing of all this talk of who is and who is not evil, is the equation of passivity with moral and ethical integrity and evil with resistance and attempts at self determination.

Eko had every right to defend himself – and that included the use of lethal force – against unknown attackers silently kidnapping him. To say that it was wrong for him to defend himself because he did not know they meant him harm is risible.

That is the ethical system imposed upon sheep, pigs and cattle – not humans. To impose such a system on humans is to deliberately denigrate their worth as humans and a tacit creation of slavery.

However, Eko’s reversal from repentant man to unrepentant man was poorly handled by the writers.

 

[occam]

But a spinal surgeon DID fall from the sky. How more literal can you get? Sure it might have taken them days, even weeks, to research the fact that Jack is a spinal surgeon. But that doesn't negate the fact that he fell from the sky after Benry found out he had a tumor.

It does seem an amazing coincidence... if you take the story of Benry's tumor at face value. Maybe he has a tumor, maybe he doesn't....

Don't trust anything the Others reveal. They've earned our distrust many times over.