Lost: Feb 09 2005{Spoiler Talk} TV

The thing that particularly struck me this episode is the glaring disparity between the survivors featured in the main cast and the majority of the survivors played by extras. I had some newfound respect for Jin's character because, in the few lines he got this episode, he seemed to sum up the attitude of those poor souls who aren't lucky enough to be a part of the "in" crowd. For instance when he's watching the main characters in conversation at the beginning of the episode and he wonders out loud what's going on with Claire and the baby; I saw the curiosity and confusion of those survivors who are routinely excluded from the significant goings on of the island. Similarly, when Jin is going about the day to day matter of survival later in the episode along comes Charlie doing his own thing and Jin is the one who gets clocked with a sling stone SIMPLY FOR BEING NEXT TO CHARLIE. Later when he's recovering from the blow with Sung his frank statement: "I was attacked and hurt for something THEY did" resonates with the anger and bitterness I imagine I'd feel if I weren't a part of the 'special' clique. :mad:

Though I doubt we'll see much of it being made in the ongoing plot, I'd be interested in seeing those who are being alienated and dismissed out of hand grow distrustful and resentful of the main characters. These self-styled leaders would worry me greatly; most of them have openly showed their propensity for violence, having repeatedly traded blows with each other time and time again: Sawyer and Sayid, Sawyer and Jack, Boone and Sawyer, Michael and Jin, ect, they've all gone at it at one moment or the other. Then they all armed themselves with Locke's knives. Then because of something they did someone is attacked and killed. Afterwards, the in-crowd casually pulls out a secret arsenal of guns and ammo and distribute them amongst their own. Survivors are being threatened and they're hiding guns? These people have hoarded water, radio equipment and now weapons. These people are fighting their own personal demons and each other; they're damaged goods! I'd worry as much about them as I would the inhabitants of the forest. :uhoh:

I know the writers need to focus on the main characters but I think some better efforts could be made to involve the other survivors in the overall storyline. At least so that we get the impression that they're somehow involved as something other than red shirts. I mean, how are we supposed to feel anything when Scott-Steve dies? The discrepancy was really driven home for me when Claire gets suspicious when she sees everyone staring at her. She sees an elderly couple, then a dark haired woman but when she finally confronts someone about the staring, it's Shannon! When Claire is spinning around I really got the impression that she was looking around for someone who she knew was ALLOWED to speak. :\
 

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I'm not turning on the show, yet. I know suspense mystery takes time, but they are so set in their ways of telling this story it has become predictible. And I think that is not good for a show like this.
 

sabres said:
I wouldn't be shocked if another Ethan shows up in a future episode.

I thought the same thing...methinks we'll be seeing him again.

And Sawyer's comment about "...I don't know WHAT you are..." to him also seemed telling. The guy took a HELLUVA beating from Jack, stayed down for a few seconds, and got right back up. If Charlie didn't shot him, we was SO gonna make Sawyer eat that gun.

-Rugger
 

Crothian said:
I'm not turning on the show, yet. I know suspense mystery takes time, but they are so set in their ways of telling this story it has become predictible. And I think that is not good for a show like this.

Not to put to fine a point on it, but I was under the impression you were never actually that keen on the show to begin with, honestly.
 
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WizarDru said:
Not to put to fine a point on it, but I was under the impression you were never actually that keen on the show to begin with, honestly.

I haven't been a big vocal supporter, but the fact that I watch every week is a big thing for me. There are not a lot of shows I make that commitment with. Most shows by now I'd hjave a feeling on if its good or not, but not so with Lost. They are so focused on not telling us anything that I fear when we do learn some things it is going to suck and suck hard. So, I'm not getting too emotionally attached because I've been burned a lot by shows in the past.
 

I liked the episode. I wasn't surprised when Charlie shot Ethan, but I had expected it to be Claire. I was more tense about there being a loose gun then whether Ethan would pummel them. I have to say one thing though, the show did a great job with making Ethan scary. I got chills with the way he looked at Charlie, and the way he came out of nowhere and went after Claire. I do however find it very unbelievable that Jack could get him down by just hitting him. There is definitely a supernatural feel to Ethan. (in addition to making people lose their memories)
Did anyone notice how they never showed what they did with Ethan after he was shot? I wouldn't be surprised to see him come back. He definitely added to the intensity of the show.
 

arnwyn said:
I'm with you. There are all these extremely important things to be investigated (a freakin' hatch in the ground! A cable coming out of the ocean! Actual power at the Frenchwoman's place!), and they sat around doing nothing for 2 weeks. C'mon. (And no, I don't buy any of WayneLigon's excuses at all.)

They're less excuses than observations.

The others cannot react to the hatch - or whatever it is - because only Locke and Boone know about it. They are investigating it, when they get the time to slip away from the others long enough. Why Locke hasn't told anyone else about it is a mystery, but then Locke keeps a lot of secrets. He's seen whatever the creature is as well and hasn't told a soul. So far everything he's done has had a reason; he just doesn't see fit to explain those reasons.
 

I'm not going to knock the show for only focusing on fourteen main characters during the first season instead of forty-something. Leaves lots of opportunties for the future, and you have to admit that this show has one of the largest ensemble casts ever attempted. I will be disappointed if this continues in future seasons. That was always one of the biggest weaknesses with Star Trek: Voyager. You had a finite group of marooned people together but never really got to know more than the main cast.
 

Future Episodes: Air Date, and backstory person

Episode 16: Outlaws -- Sawyer
Episode 17: ...In Translation Feb. 23 -- Jin
Episode 18: Numbers March 2 -- Hurley
Episode 19: Deus Ex Machina April 13 -- Locke
Episode 20: Do No Harm April 20 -- Jack
Episode 21: Sides April 27 -- Sayid
Episode 22 (No name or Date given) -- Kate

The creators have confirmed there will be 24 episodes, total, as of now.
 


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