Magic item creation ring of permanent Shield

[Starkill23]

I am running an adventure and several people wish to buy a ring of shield. They are trying to convince me since it is a first level spell they can get it cast into a ring with it functioning constantly for 2,000 GP.

The DMG is woefully unclear on how you go about making a ring like this and what is would actually cost. Are their any sources online that I could look at that address this issue?

Thank you for your replies

Daniel

 

[hong]

The DMG guidelines are just that; guidelines. They're not hard-and-fast rules. You're free to come up with your own price if you think it would be more suitable for the item in question (and note the item of always-on shield is one of the more notorious twinks around).

Assuming you're using the version of shield that only gives the +7 AC, I would price it as 7^2 * 2500 = 49 * 2500 = 122500 gp. 7 squared is in line with the other pricing formulae for a flat bonus, and 2500 is for a cover bonus that stacks with just about everything.

 

[Victim]

I agree with hong.

 

[nameless]

Though I agree with hong on the cost, I would give it a cost reduction since it is not a flat +7 cover bonus to AC, but only covers half the battlefield. From the hip, I'd say 3/4 cost reduction since literally half is too low, despite the literally halved battlefield. More often than not, the shield will be facing the appropriate direction. 3/4 seems a fair compromise. All the same. I'd prolly rather pay the full price and get a continual +7 cover bonus...

-nameless

 

[LordAO]

I think 25,000-50,000 is much more fair. Shield has enough loopholes that it isn't worth the same as other enhancements. The ring of mage armor is only 10,000 and it gives a +4.

 

[dcollins]

The DMG is woefully unclear on how you go about making a ring like this and what is would actually cost. Are their any sources online that I could look at that address this issue?

An even more important issue may be the following: you don't have to allow this in your campaign. The rules for "new items" are guidelines for DM's allowing new, house-ruled items... they are not blank-checks for players to design arbitrary items.

If in doubt, the easiest and surest ruling to make is simply "only core items allowed in this campaign".

That having been said, a pricing for such an item on the order of 60k to 100k seems in the right ballpark.

 

[Dingleberry]

Assuming you're using the version of shield that only gives the +7 AC, I would price it as 7^2 * 2500 = 49 * 2500 = 122500 gp. 7 squared is in line with the other pricing formulae for a flat bonus, and 2500 is for a cover bonus that stacks with just about everything.

Don't forget the "negates magic missile attacks directed at you" function, if that also remains.

 

[hong]

Don't forget the "negates magic missile attacks directed at you" function, if that also remains.

Well, I guess that cancels out the facing restriction, which I also forgot.

 

[bret]

Give them a brooch of shielding. Cost 1500 gp. This is what they get when using a shield spell to craft a wonderous items.

Point out if they want it to also provide armor class, you would have to add a second ability at the normal cost of armor adjustments.

Cost 7^2 * 1000 * .75 (limited coverage)

If they also want the bonus to saving throw, that would once again cost more:
3 ^ 2 * 2500 (using luck bonus figure since it also stacks well) * .75 (limited coverage)

Total cost:
7^2 * 1000 * .75 +
3^2 * 2500 * .75 * 2 (no space) +
1500 * 2 (no space) =

73,500 gp.

Still might be a little cheap, but it makes a good approximation.These prices are also based on the price guides in the DMG.

 

[Stalker0]

Considering the power this would give to the fighter types especailly, I would definatrely say somewhere in the 80k-100k range is not asking too much at all, if you even want to allow the ring in your game.

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