male playing female PC
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Following from Bagpuss, are there any non-Canadians here who ban female PCs played by males (think I saw a Finn earlier)? Specifically, anyone from the UK? I'm wondering if this hostility to female PCs played by males might be at least partly a culturally determined phenomenon? I'm wondering now if there's something in Canadian culture that makes it less acceptable - or badly done when it is done, leading to it being seen as less acceptable.
Conversely, is there something in British and other cultures that makes it hard for us to understand why anyone would want to ban it?
My completely wild guess, based on the Canadians I've known (evil bisexual dominatrices et al...) is that Canadians may often have some sort of gender insecurity issues not normally shared by eg British RPers, and not shared, or shared to a lesser extent, by US Americans.
Conversely, is there something in British and other cultures that makes it hard for us to understand why anyone would want to ban it?
My completely wild guess, based on the Canadians I've known (evil bisexual dominatrices et al...) is that Canadians may often have some sort of gender insecurity issues not normally shared by eg British RPers, and not shared, or shared to a lesser extent, by US Americans.
s/LaSH
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Huh... in my gaming group (with two players plus me, the DM, all male), each player has both a male and a female character to round up the numbers. Being stoic New Zealanders, we haven't touched on the idea of romance with a ten-foot pole, but other than that we've had no problems.
Largely, adventurers do as adventurers do - male or female, they're not raiding dungeons for hair care products. They're going in to kill stuff, take its loot, and brag about it afterwards, pure and simple. (And if you think otherwise, you're probably right, it's not that simple - but it's still there, lurking in the shadows, ever vigilant.)
I say it's the person, not the gender, that matters. Look at my comic, sig linked, and compare the 'heroes' Cat and Thetis. Heck, compare Guen while you're at it. I'm writing these characters from the actions of players (or my own DMing), and I don't think they're particularly horribly stereotyped.
Now, as for my art... that may be horribly stereotyped, but I'll defend it to the death, because I think it just isn't. Grrrr.
Largely, adventurers do as adventurers do - male or female, they're not raiding dungeons for hair care products. They're going in to kill stuff, take its loot, and brag about it afterwards, pure and simple. (And if you think otherwise, you're probably right, it's not that simple - but it's still there, lurking in the shadows, ever vigilant.)
I say it's the person, not the gender, that matters. Look at my comic, sig linked, and compare the 'heroes' Cat and Thetis. Heck, compare Guen while you're at it. I'm writing these characters from the actions of players (or my own DMing), and I don't think they're particularly horribly stereotyped.
Now, as for my art... that may be horribly stereotyped, but I'll defend it to the death, because I think it just isn't. Grrrr.
Kahuna Burger
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Re: Re: What's wrong with that?
Not creepy, but I hope this played in to established traits of the female character - I can think of only one of my female characters who would have made such an offer (well, to a man, the amazon would have been all over it if the cute elf chick saved her). Perhaps the rogue was trying to fulfill a crush? Otherwise, outside of porn, thats simply not how people are likely to behave.
but aside from that...
my first response to this would have to be an instinctive "I've sorry about the quality of your male aquaintences..."
But since we're being nice now, suffice it to say that the majority of men I know would have a half dozen reasons to turn down such an offer and probably would if they did not have an ongoing interest in the woman and would have to continue to "work with her" in the future. I think a polite "uh, just doing what I had to for the party, no special thanks needed" was the best roleplaying possible, and the offer itself questionable depending on the established group dynamic.
(unless this is a D20 porn game I was unaware of... When are we gonna get XXXenophile D20, anyway)
Kahuna Burger
Not creepy, but I hope this played in to established traits of the female character - I can think of only one of my female characters who would have made such an offer (well, to a man, the amazon would have been all over it if the cute elf chick saved her). Perhaps the rogue was trying to fulfill a crush? Otherwise, outside of porn, thats simply not how people are likely to behave.
but aside from that...
Bagpuss said:
my first response to this would have to be an instinctive "I've sorry about the quality of your male aquaintences..."
But since we're being nice now, suffice it to say that the majority of men I know would have a half dozen reasons to turn down such an offer and probably would if they did not have an ongoing interest in the woman and would have to continue to "work with her" in the future. I think a polite "uh, just doing what I had to for the party, no special thanks needed" was the best roleplaying possible, and the offer itself questionable depending on the established group dynamic.(unless this is a D20 porn game I was unaware of... When are we gonna get XXXenophile D20, anyway)
Kahuna Burger
Black Omega
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I can understand some people have had some bad experiences with it. I GM'ed Champions at an all-male university.
But generally I don't have a problem with one of my players doing it, and I never think twice about playing a female NPC or PC.
For one thing it's cheaper than therapy
I also found it helped my other RP, because I worked harder at making a more multidimensional character. Just like I find GM'ing helps my playing, it gives me a different perspective.
Not a bad idea to simply talk to to player and share your concerns. communication is never a bad thing.
But generally I don't have a problem with one of my players doing it, and I never think twice about playing a female NPC or PC.
For one thing it's cheaper than therapy
I also found it helped my other RP, because I worked harder at making a more multidimensional character. Just like I find GM'ing helps my playing, it gives me a different perspective.
Not a bad idea to simply talk to to player and share your concerns. communication is never a bad thing.
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