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BluWolf

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I have always been curious about Campaign Cartographer over the years and I have read a few threads her on the boards but the $80 price tag just always kept me away from a tool that I may or may not take too.

Pro Fantasy has dropped the price to $40.

I would be interested if folks think this product is worth a gamble at this price?
 

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Yes it is. One of the biggest plusses has been the improvement of the interface and the user's guide. Yes you have to read the guide but it will have you creating maps in no time.

Be sure you ask yourself what are you going to be mapping? CC can do all it all without add-ons but the add-on really do enhance and make things easier.
 
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I'd say it depends on what your expectations are. If your artistic ability is on the low end of the scale, you're simply not going to produce the breathtakingly awesome maps that you see in the ads. If you buy it expecting it to make you a greater artist than you are, you'll probably be disappointed. Personally I'm mediocre artistically, and I tend to produce mediocre maps with Campaign Cartographer, though they're loads better than what I can do with colored pencils and paper.

The main thing I liked about CC was the fact that I can make changes without having to redraw the map from scratch. This saved me quite a bit of time versus pencil and paper. It's also nice having printable maps that can be marked on or whatnot without worrying about destroying the one good map.

I haven't tried the city or dungeon add on packs. I did get the character portrait one, mostly to make counters. It was serviceable for that, although none of the included templates were sized properly for my battle mat and I wound up having to cut off the edges of the counters I made with it. If I were buying it now I'd give the character module a miss probably.
 

You may want to look at Dundjinni (http://www.dundjinni.com). They will be releasing it in May and the silver version is $40 and it's maps come out looking really nice. It's not intended for overland maps as much as it is for detailed maps, but I've seen people make decent overland maps with it. You can download a demo of it and be sure to grab all of the free downloads of objects before they take them down from the site. There are a few examples of user creations in the forums as well.
 

cybertalus said:
I'd say it depends on what your expectations are. If your artistic ability is on the low end of the scale, you're simply not going to produce the breathtakingly awesome maps that you see in the ads. If you buy it expecting it to make you a greater artist than you are, you'll probably be disappointed. Personally I'm mediocre artistically, and I tend to produce mediocre maps with Campaign Cartographer, though they're loads better than what I can do with colored pencils and paper.

The main thing I liked about CC was the fact that I can make changes without having to redraw the map from scratch. This saved me quite a bit of time versus pencil and paper. It's also nice having printable maps that can be marked on or whatnot without worrying about destroying the one good map.

I haven't tried the city or dungeon add on packs. I did get the character portrait one, mostly to make counters. It was serviceable for that, although none of the included templates were sized properly for my battle mat and I wound up having to cut off the edges of the counters I made with it. If I were buying it now I'd give the character module a miss probably.


The single biggest thing you can do to improve your maps in CC2 is to draw, draw, draw...

That having been said, you would do well to download a copy of the Mappa Harnica toolkit for CC2 - it makes excellent maps of all types and avoids the "comic-book" appearance of maps made by those just starting with CC2.
 


3catcircus said:
The single biggest thing you can do to improve your maps in CC2 is to draw, draw, draw...

That having been said, you would do well to download a copy of the Mappa Harnica toolkit for CC2 - it makes excellent maps of all types and avoids the "comic-book" appearance of maps made by those just starting with CC2.

I agree. With practice, you can create some very good looking maps. I also agree that CC2 is a great program.

And Link to Mappa Harnica? Please? Pretty please? I know a web search will probably find it but I am feeling lazy.

Thanks!

edg
 

Actually I think I need to back up a second. Is ANY kind of mapping software a good investment. I mean, besides having a nice picture of your world how interactive can these maps be?

Does it give you the ability to publish to the web? (HTML, JPG....)
Does it create auto-zoom capabilites so I can go from 10,000 ft down to a more local level or even IN a town or city?
Can I keep notes or campaign information tied to the map in some fashion?

If it can't do some of these things to some degree is there anything that does?
 

BluWolf said:
Actually I think I need to back up a second. Is ANY kind of mapping software a good investment. I mean, besides having a nice picture of your world how interactive can these maps be?

Does it give you the ability to publish to the web? (HTML, JPG....)
Does it create auto-zoom capabilites so I can go from 10,000 ft down to a more local level or even IN a town or city?
Can I keep note or campaign information tied to the map in some fashion?

If it can't do some of these things to some degree is there anything that does?
Any software is only good if you use it, are you a mapper? There is a note function but I find it is easier to keep notes elsewhere.

Check out this thread for map examples: http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=73423

and to toot my own horn...

http://www.enworld.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=9711

http://www.enworld.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=9371


CC allows you to export files to jpg format.

CC is a basicly a CAD program, it has unlimited zooming.

Again, I recomend you download the demo of the different mapping programs and play around with them, each has good and bad points.

Another mappers you may want to check out:
NBOS Fractral Mapper: http://www.nbos.com/index.htm
AutoRealm (Free): http://www.gryc.ws/autorealm.htm
 
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