Massive Subduel?

[Nebrok]

An interesting question came up last night during a duel, where characters weild magical, non-damaging weapon that deal subduel and not real damage... for sport. This simulate real combat and truly measuses how characters stand up to each other, and sure beats having to take a long jaunt to Ysgard where everyone who dies there just gets back up the next day. Thing is, the characters a reaching epic level where the chance for massive damage is much higher.

SO... the question: If massive damage can kill instantly, can 'massive subduel' instantly KO?

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Rules As Written? No - there's no provision for such.

However, it sounds like a really great idea to include, along with "Subdual CDGs."

 

[Liquidsabre]

I've always been fond of the houserule use of non-lethal CDGs for knock-outs for creatures with discernable anatomies myself. Massive non-lethal sounds pretty good to me too. I'll be snagging that one for my own use thanks!

 

[Ridley's Cohort]

It would make perfect sense for an instant KO check. But it is not included in the RAW.

It would also make perfect sense that a critical hit of subdual damage can "accidentally" do some portion of normal killing damage, making the arena less than perfectly safe.

 

[punkorange]

It would make perfect sense for an instant KO check. But it is not included in the RAW.

It would also make perfect sense that a critical hit of subdual damage can "accidentally" do some portion of normal killing damage, making the arena less than perfectly safe.

I like that. Perhaps a critical hit would do normal subdual and the rest as lethal, or you could just have it half and half.

 

[Quinnman]

An interesting question came up last night during a duel, where characters weild magical, non-damaging weapon that deal subduel and not real damage... for sport. This simulate real combat and truly measuses how characters stand up to each other, and sure beats having to take a long jaunt to Ysgard where everyone who dies there just gets back up the next day. Thing is, the characters a reaching epic level where the chance for massive damage is much higher.

SO... the question: If massive damage can kill instantly, can 'massive subduel' instantly KO?

Nice idea with the KO - I like that

On the subject of epic and MD... have you seen the rules about changing the limits? I think it´s in the epic book... during lvl 21-30 the MD limit is increased to 60 and the lower limit is lowered to -20 (another +10/-10 on lvl 31-40 etc.)... this is to compensate for the potentially HUGE amounts of damage characters (and most monsters!) can dish out!

edit: the above values are from memory... so may not be accurate, but it´s something like that at least

 

[fett527]

After seeing the topic of this thread I just keep thinking about The Hunt for Red October.

 

[Nebrok]

Nice idea with the KO - I like that

On the subject of epic and MD... have you seen the rules about changing the limits? I think it´s in the epic book... during lvl 21-30 the MD limit is increased to 60 and the lower limit is lowered to -20 (another +10/-10 on lvl 31-40 etc.)... this is to compensate for the potentially HUGE amounts of damage characters (and most monsters!) can dish out!

edit: the above values are from memory... so may not be accurate, but it´s something like that at least

I have looked at that, and of cousre it still aplies. thanks thou!

 

[Shuffle]

After seeing the topic of this thread I just keep thinking about The Hunt for Red October.

Agggh, I just spit coke out of my nose when I checked the title
Thanks a lot...

 

[fett527]

Agggh, I just spit coke out of my nose when I checked the title
Thanks a lot...

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