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Dire Lemming said:
Gah, I'm still trying to come up with something impressive to do.

Illusions. Beguilers are masters of both enchantment and illusions. When you face situations with things that are immune to mind affecting spells look over your illusion list (or your party buffing mind-affecting charms).

I played a beguiler in a Savage Tide game and that is my advice because there are a lot of common monster types that are immune to mind-affecting spells (constructs, vermin, undead, plants, etc.)
 

I was thinking about a Master Abjuration Specialist/Archmage that can dispel CL 20 spells with a regular dispel magic, without any items.
My other thought was a Beguiler/Wizard/Ultimate Magus. Would you allow Incantatrix? If not, I'll have to find something else, maybe Loremaster.
Any thoughts from anyone on which would be better for this kind of thing?
 

I know he has Illusions, he just doesn't care much for them. My main problem I think is that I've never played a high level spell caster before so I really don't know what to do.
 

Dire Lemming my advice is to change your character. A Beguiler looses a lot of options and I think with a full spell list you would find things far easier.
 

Dire Lemming said:
I know he has Illusions, he just doesn't care much for them. My main problem I think is that I've never played a high level spell caster before so I really don't know what to do.
I love illusions and don'tz care much about enchantments...

Perhaps you should heed Halford's suggestion.
 

Dire Lemming - Perhaps a show of your 'skills' would work if your enchantments aren't? If I recall correctly, there are several good enchantments that buff skill checks, etc.?
I'm not actually all that familiar with Beguiler, so...

Aside from that though, I'm starting to agree with them, It seems that an enchanter-mage in an epic mages school is going to be somewhat lacking.


Kerlan - I have one simple question : How? Dispel magic caps at 10, I know of very few abilities that can improve that, and even with all of those, it wouldn't be reliable vs same-level casters. Not to mention I hope that's not your whole 'thing', cuz that'd seem like kind of a one-trick pony. (Granted no mage is "REALLY" a one-trick, but the more you specialize..)
 

Jemal said:
Dire Lemming - Perhaps a show of your 'skills' would work if your enchantments aren't? If I recall correctly, there are several good enchantments that buff skill checks, etc.?
I'm not actually all that familiar with Beguiler, so...

Aside from that though, I'm starting to agree with them, It seems that an enchanter-mage in an epic mages school is going to be somewhat lacking.


Kerlan - I have one simple question : How? Dispel magic caps at 10, I know of very few abilities that can improve that, and even with all of those, it wouldn't be reliable vs same-level casters. Not to mention I hope that's not your whole 'thing', cuz that'd seem like kind of a one-trick pony. (Granted no mage is "REALLY" a one-trick, but the more you specialize..)
Use the Greater Dispel Magic Spell ;)
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/dispelMagicGreater.htm

My problem: only the normal one is on the DN spell list :(
 

Jemal said:
Aside from that though, I'm starting to agree with them, It seems that an enchanter-mage in an epic mages school is going to be somewhat lacking.
If he doesn't like Illusions, which is half his class, why did he become a beguiler? If you want Enchantments you could try a Focused Specialist Enchanter.
Jemal said:
Kerlan - I have one simple question : How? Dispel magic caps at 10, I know of very few abilities that can improve that, and even with all of those, it wouldn't be reliable vs same-level casters. Not to mention I hope that's not your whole 'thing', cuz that'd seem like kind of a one-trick pony. (Granted no mage is "REALLY" a one-trick, but the more you specialize..)
Master Specialist adds +5 to the check, Inquisition domain power adds +4, and Elven Spell Lore adds +2. He can also counterspell and with Mastery of Counsterspelling from Archmage, the spell will be reflected back at the caster. This stuff would be more useful in the mage duels of course.

Do you think Ultimate Magus would be better?
 

You know, beguilers aren't unique because they cast enchantment primarily and illusion spells... They're the only class that gets a decent number of spells but doesn't need to prepare them ahead of time. Like I said, I've just never played a high level spell caster before so I'm at a loss. Whatever, just consider Nick as having stepped down.
 

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