Masters of the Arcane

[Jemal]

scorpions aren't mindless, they are of animal intelligence - Though poly any object changes your int score to what you become, so it would have the dragons intelligence score of 12 while retaining it's own 10 wisdom/2 charisma.

 

[Dire Lemming]

For clarification: Due to the effects of Polymorph, it's a Young, 13 HD Red Dragon with 4 HP, 0 BAB, and a +0 will save. It's got the physical capabilities of a red dragon, but retains its own will, hp, and attack. Sry, but that's the best I can do.

I wouldn't have minded a bevy of humans.

 

[Albedo]

Dire Lemming: A little piece of advice for you. Go through your list of advanced learning spells and redo them. There is no reason for you to be taking alot of those spells, like Geas. Why do you need a spell that can be beaten by spells already on your spell list. You should be taking things that don't have anything to do with illusion/enchantment in order to round out your capabilities. And I have no idea why you took lesser geas when it only works on creatures 7 HD or less...

Also, you specifically took shades, so you can duplicate ANY conjuration spell 8th level or lower. You didn't need Jemal to make you a monster, you could have done so on your own, and you can make it explode just as well. Remember, shades is still 80% real, even if they disbelieve.

 

[Dire Lemming]

Unfortunately I can only take Illusion and Enchantment spells with Advanced Learning, but what would you suggest instead of the spells I've chosen?

I could already automatically control a monster I summoned with Summon Monster, so it would do nothing to show off my enchantment abilities.

 

[Walking Dad]

@Jemal: SRD
Tiny vermin
Abilities: Str 3, Dex 10, Con 14, Int Ø, Wis 10, Cha 2

@Albedo: Beguiler advanced learning only allows for enchantment or illusion spells.

Just as DN's only allows for necromancy.

 

[Halford]

No the spell does grant the changee the Intelligence of its new form and since dragons are intelligent it must have a mind. Vermin are considered mindless because their intelligence is too miniscule to register.

There is no mindless creature that has an intelligence score, though there are creatures immune to mind effecting stuff with intelligence scores. I am 99% sure of that, theres probably something in some Fiend Folio...

 

[Dire Lemming]

How about undead?

 

[Jemal]

the point's rather moot as the spell gives it an int score and changes it's type, loosing the vermin traits.

 

[Vincent Tempes]

Spell list is just about done. I'm just looking at a few more spells. That said, I'd like one spell out of races of dragon. Power Word: Pain.

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[Halford]

Yep, you've got it there Jemal.

Well a guess you could PAO an Undead into something able to be effected by mindeffecting spells, but if its failed the save anyway why not POA it into a wine gum? Does POA actually work offensively btw?