Max melee damage at 1st level - core vs. non-core

[Stalker0]

Orc Paladin

Power attack, divine might.

22 str, 16 cha. 6 str x 1.5 = 9. 1 PA = +2. Divine Might = 3. Smite Evil = 1

With scythe crit....1d8x4 + 9x4 + 2x4 + 3x4 + 1x4= 32+36+8+12+4= 92, but with no buffs.

This thread reminds every evil masterminds why you always send minions....because even the lowlest smuck can get it done one time

 

[pawsplay]

Snap

-Hyp.

I owe you a coke.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Power Attack at 1 BAB = +1 max

Doubled for a two-handed weapon.

-Hyp.

 

[Moonstone Spider]

Er, no. You cited the rule correctly: x3 x3 = x5.

So it's 1d8 Lance damage, x3 (Critical) x3 (Spirited Charge) = 1d8 x 5 = 5d8.

Aside from that, Ride-By Attack is also a prerequisite feat for Spirited Charge, so your Rogue is a feat short.

-Hyp.

Hmm, messed that up then. He'll have to be a human fighter and give up Sneak Attack damage. So that drops Human with Lance down below other people's already-posted damages.

As a note, should we assume that the characters are proficient with the weapons they are wielding? I could assume a half-orc with a Collossal Gnome Hooked Hammer (6d6x3 AND 4d6x4 base damage) but it's kind of silly, the -8 size penalty, -2 Two Weapon Fighting Penalty, -4 nonproficient penalty, and probably something else I'm not thinking of would assure that the weapon never hits on anything but a natural 20. However since we're assuming the weapon does hit for max damage, that would result in 24d6 = 144 and 16d6 = 96 damage for a total of 240 damage before bothering adding in strength.

 

[pawsplay]

As a note, should we assume that the characters are proficient with the weapons they are wielding? I could assume a half-orc with a Collossal Gnome Hooked Hammer (6d6x3 AND 4d6x4 base damage) but it's kind of silly, the -8 size penalty, -2 Two Weapon Fighting Penalty, -4 nonproficient penalty, and probably something else I'm not thinking of would assure that the weapon never hits on anything but a natural 20. However since we're assuming the weapon does hit for max damage, that would result in 24d6 = 144 and 16d6 = 96 damage for a total of 240 damage before bothering adding in strength.

How, exactly, would he wield a Colossal Gnome Hooked Hammer? Beside the size penalty, there's ease to consider... you can't wield something that takes more than two hands.

 

[Thurbane]

Isn't there a limit of wielding a weapon only 1 size category than a two handed weapon of your own size?

I'm not 100% on exact how Monkey Grip works, and Powerful Build (which don't stack).

 

[starwed]

Actually, the way to increase damage here, if TWF is allowed, might be to weild smaller weapons.

Enlarged Divine Favored half-orc cleric with two small MW'd scythes. Smites with the first attack. Strength mod is now +6, and the scythes do 8 max damage. Power attack and smite add 1 to the first scythe, while divine favor and MW add 2 to both.

Damage from primary: 4 * (8+6+1+2) = 68
Damage from secondary: 4 * (8+3+2) = 52

Total damage from two hits: 120 damage.

(Chance of actually dealing this damage, what with -8/-12 on your attacks, will be something like 1/(400*400*16*16)=.0000024%)

edit: Corrected numbers from PA

 

[pawsplay]

Small scythes do a max of 6 damage.

 

[Artoomis]

Hmmm... Okay, I messed up Power Attack and it should be +2 for two-handed weapon.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Power attack and smite add 2 to the first scythe...

A 1st level cleric with Power Attack can subtract up to his +0 BAB from all melee attack rolls, and add that amount to his melee damage rolls.

Which isn't all that useful for this exercise

He also isn't likely to be able to cast two Magic Weapon spells and Divine Favor and Enlarge Person at 1st level.

So let's assume one Magic Weapon on the primary scythe (doesn't matter which, really, since we're assuming a hit and a critical), and Smite on the primary as well.

Primary scythe deals (8 + 6 + 1 + 1 + 1) x 4, for 68.
Off-Hand scythe deals (8 + 3 + 1) x 4, or 48.

Total is 116 - manages to edge out the set halberd!

(Wait... since he doesn't have Power Attack, he can have Scribe Scroll. So Magic Weapon on both scythes is feasible after all... total 120.)

Of course, once we start looking at multiple attacks, we've also got AoOs to consider.

If our theoretical half-orc has Combat Reflexes and 18 Dex, can we assume he also scores criticals on the five AoOs provoked this round?

Small scythes do a max of 6 damage.

Ordinarily, yes, but he's Enlarged, so those Small scythes are actually Medium by the time we go to calculate damage

-Hyp.