oh yeah, it would help to think a bit. i somehow got it into my head that they could access the regular spell lists. so can either of them cast epic level spells? not that it really matters at the moment. i'm tweaking a friend's character sheet design and am making special pages for each of the spellcasters. i'll make the max spell level right instead of 9th for everyone. an epic sheet would probably need a big redesign anyway.
thanks for the help