Mechanics Dogma - Requirements for a system

[Wormwood]

Oh you're just gonna love my Nobilis to d20 conversion.

 

[Storm Gorm]

See...on the other thread I had your back; however, on this one I have to ask...."why are you playing DnD?"

Because im relatively fresh to the world of rpg, just lately getting the hang of things. And my group are quite stubbornly denying to play anything else. (So a lot of my struggling here is blowing some steam from the heatened arguments ive had with them, and also id like to test my points with you people, my greatest authority on rpg)

 

[Storm Gorm]

I'd say, along those lines, WizarDru, that Storm Gorm's best bet is to pick up one of those extremely rules light games like The Window, Amber Diceless, or even some LARP rules, but without the costumes and the running around outside looking silly.

Great. LARP is not really an option, but ive looked into amber and the window, and they are promising.

Also, there's probably be a much better discussion about this on the rpg.net forums rather than here, for that matter. By default, everyone here has at least some connection to D&D which isn't really the kind of system that you're wanting. That doesn't mean there isn't a fairly broad spectrum of tastes within D&D, but at the very least, everyone here has to some extent accepted the paradigm of D&D-style roleplaying; otherwise they wouldn't be hanging around here.

Again, great! Ive looked a little into rpg.net, and it does not make me as angryexcited as this forum - it might be about time i cooled down.

So to come to this board and say you want the opposite experience as D&D provides could be considered trolling. I don't think you do this intentionally, I just think you're at the wrong place.

I sincerely did not know how attached this forum was to D&D and d20, which has proven to be a lot. I figured this subforum was more loose and comfortable, since its name is "General RPG Discussion", not "Spesific D&D Discussion". But ill go "troll" someplace else with these matters now.

 

[ichabod]

Because im relatively fresh to the world of rpg, just lately getting the hang of things. And my group are quite stubbornly denying to play anything else. (So a lot of my struggling here is blowing some steam from the heatened arguments ive had with them, and also id like to test my points with you people, my greatest authority on rpg)

Well, my first piece of advice to you would be to stop playing with them. Because there is one place where you are definately wrong. The primary goal of RPGs is not the story (or getting into a role, which is totally different, but I think what you are actually talking about). The primary goal of RPGs is to have fun. If you're sitting around having heated arguments with people, I very seriously doubt you are contributing to their fun factor, much less having fun yourself.

My second piece of advice would be to stop playing games if you don't like rules. Since you don't want to act out someone elses story, do improvisational theatre.

My third piece of advice would be to lighten up. Zeesh.

 

[Desdichado]

I sincerely did not know how attached this forum was to D&D and d20, which has proven to be a lot. I figured this subforum was more loose and comfortable, since its name is "General RPG Discussion", not "Spesific D&D Discussion". But ill go "troll" someplace else with these matters now.

Dude... the whole point of the site is D&D and d20, so naturally the forums, which are a subset of the website, are also fairly well thoroughly saturated with D&D and d20. If you wanted to talk about RPGs in general, go to a site that's dedicated to RPGs in general, like rpg.net. I have to admit, I'm a bit shocked that this even needs to be said; it's pretty frikkin' self-evident.

Also, if you act at all in your gaming group like you do around here, I can very well imagine that you do spend a lot of time in heated arguments. You seem to have no concept of the difference between an opinion and a fact.

 

[jmucchiello]

Whenever rules-lite arises in these discussions I always recommend Risus: The Anything RPG. It's all of 6 pages long and free. GMs who run Risus for the first time usually making the mistake of not doing enough planning because the 2 minutes it takes to resolve any conflict is a lot shorter than just about any other game out there. So in a 4 hour gaming session, you will have 4 hours of plot.

 

[Storm Gorm]

Reality: (being a bartender, proclaiming) I probably have everything and anything. Place your orders gentlemen.

Dogbrain: Sedate the man with a beer, will ye!?

Storm Gorm: No thanks, id like a strawberry drink, please. Does that exist?

Dogbrain: A fancy-pantsy fruity healthy perhaps-not-entirely straight-drink, eh? Nah laddie, join me fer a steep downhill!

Storm Gorm: No thank you. Id still like a strawberry drink - Im on the waterwagon.

Reality: Hm... Strawberry. Let me check for a second opinion on the largest online drinks discussion there is. One moment please.

Dogbrain: Ferget reality. Ye have beer! I mean, beer man, its the bestestest ever drink, whaddaya need... err... i ferget what im a saying... (mumbling) critishcally unshtable dexsh...

Storm Gorm: Obviously, you just dont understand me *knocks Dogbrain even more unconscious with his own plus two mace*

Reality: The cat is down. Lets dance in the ceiling and on the table. Strawberry drinks on the house.

 

[jmucchiello]

Because im relatively fresh to the world of rpg, just lately getting the hang of things.

Which explains why you can tell us, who've been playing for decades, the truth about ROLEplaying. If you are new to rpgs what makes you think this idea of TRUE ROLEPLAYING hasn't come up before?

I recommend this article about how someone new to a discipline can believe they know it well when a true expert will know they don't know much at all about it.

 

[Storm Gorm]

Dude... the whole point of the site is D&D and d20, so naturally the forums, which are a subset of the website, are also fairly well thoroughly saturated with D&D and d20. I'm a bit shocked that this even needs to be said; it's pretty frikkin' self-evident.

Have you as little goodwill as the expression of the face of your avatar? I know that D&D and d20 is the focus of this messageboard, but still, it seems to be surprisingly locked in that perspective. Anyways, we can kill this here and now, after all rpg.net has been mentioned many too many times already.

Also, if you act at all in your gaming group like you do around here, I can very well imagine that you do spend a lot of time in heated arguments. You seem to have no concept of the difference between an opinion and a fact.

Im not sure what you mean by that, but no. I cant. I dont believe there is. But thats far beyond this chatter. And even further beyond my english skills to communicate. Nomatter.

 

[Storm Gorm]

Which explains why you can tell us, who've been playing for decades, the truth about ROLEplaying. If you are new to rpgs what makes you think this idea of TRUE ROLEPLAYING hasn't come up before?

I recommend this article about how someone new to a discipline can believe they know it well when a true expert will know they don't know much at all about it.

Clever, clever. Do you think i would have ever learned anything if i wouldnt allow myself to post as inflammable queries as this one? Ive never been trying to teach you, rather the opposite, i wanted to gather response from you true experts. Or, to test both your arguments and mine - which actually does concur sometimes.

I dont intend to be aggressive, it seems you read my posts that way, well, dont. Then again, i may be doing the very same mistake right now...