MERGED - "About Edition Wars" threads x9

[Bluenose]

I sometimes fight in the SCA, primarily polearm. While those getups are nice and colorful, I'm thinking I'd prefer to have some actual armor, rather than poofy sleeves.

How about armour, and puffy sleeves? It's a compromise, in the spirit of the thread.

And you get a feather for your hat!

 

[renau1g]

Well we all have something we agree on. We all dislike Lorraine Williams.

Not me, I love her, this is a personal attack on me and WotC because without her Gary wouldn't have been forced outta TSR and maybe it wouldn't have gone under and let Wizards pick up the D&D license.

You're attacking my favorite editions 3.xe and 4e... everything you like is wrong and everything I like is right.

 

[gamerprinter]

Allowing for the possibility I've fallen into another dimension or that what I'm typing isn't actually being displayed they way I'm typing it, WTF?!? I started this thread b/c I'm tired of Edition War threads and thought that if the General Forum was used as intended by its description, and edition specific topics were placed in the forums created for them, we might actually see a decrease in Edition War threads.

If you don't agree with my suggestion, that's cool. If you rolled your eyes at the title, ok that's cool too. But spare me the indignation for making a suggestion to reduce the number of edition war threads that didn't include ignore lists, banning users, banning topics, or otherwise stifling discussion on the boards.

Again, if we could stop talking about Edition Wars, it wouldn't be at the top of everyone's head everytime we visit EnWorld. Not only stop doing Edition Wars, but stop talking about it altogether.

It beyond me why there has to be 5 or 10 new threads a day, about "Let's stop talking about the Edition Wars", "Why are there Edition Wars", "What should be do about Edition Wars..."

What we should do is stop starting new threads about it...

Why must we dwell on the subject in every thread?! I know you're trying to be fair and helpful, but talking about isn't fair and helpful.

If the subject doesn't stop getting brought in a new thread, it will never go away.

GP

 

[Diamond Cross]

It beyond me why there has to be 5 or 10 new threads a day, about "Let's stop talking about the Edition Wars", "Why are there Edition Wars", "What should be do about Edition Wars..."

Being right is serious business. Being right is all. A person is nothing if they are not right. Being right means one is a god among men and all must bow down to the person being right.

Ad nauseum.

And NO! We can't get along! Because being right is serious business!

Bow down to the authority!

Ad nauseum. Ad nauseum. AD NAUSEUM!

 

[Diamond Cross]

grrr... double post

 

[Umbran]

Again, if we could stop talking about Edition Wars, it wouldn't be at the top of everyone's head everytime we visit EnWorld. Not only stop doing Edition Wars, but stop talking about it altogether.

I understand the idea, but to be plain - not talking about a problem doesn't make it go away. Communities don't correct unwanted behavior by ignoring it - they correct such behavior by making it clear that it isn't tolerable.

The moderating staff takes concerns like this seriously, but we can only do so if folks can talk them through, so we can get a sense of what people want and need.

 

[Azgulor]

Again, if we could stop talking about Edition Wars, it wouldn't be at the top of everyone's head everytime we visit EnWorld. Not only stop doing Edition Wars, but stop talking about it altogether.

It beyond me why there has to be 5 or 10 new threads a day, about "Let's stop talking about the Edition Wars", "Why are there Edition Wars", "What should be do about Edition Wars..."

What we should do is stop starting new threads about it...

Why must we dwell on the subject in every thread?! I know you're trying to be fair and helpful, but talking about isn't fair and helpful.

If the subject doesn't stop getting brought in a new thread, it will never go away.

GP

And THIS is the thread you choose to bring that banner to? Whatever floats you boat, man.

I'm sure you'll be making the rounds to the threads that have actually become edition war threads to plead this case as well, right?

As to the original question, should I consider you a "Yes" or a "No" vote? I'm not really clear where you stand on that. Guess I should have done a poll...

 

[fanboy2000]

To be honest, ENWorld IS Switzerland. The Mods are the Halberd wielders of Helvetia, each of them all owning a Canton.

This is a strongly moderated forum. If you want to see what a war really looks like, go to one of the old school forums and see how much they critique the old games

Personaly, I'd rather send them to Usenet. And that's a mild one. I've seen threads on that topic with over a thousand posts at rec.games.frp.dnd.

 

[Oryan77]

Eh, I find the edition specific forums to be too videogamey. But at the same time, I don't want to be railroaded into posting in the General Forum.

Now, I don't mean to sound like a ruleslawyer, but if we could optimize the forums into places where powergamers and roleplayers could edition war, then it may make the grognards happy.

Of course, then we'd need houserules for the homebew gamers. And we all know that Monty Haul will go all munchkin on us if we don't. Other than that, I'm all out of ideas.

 

[Mark CMG]

Given that description, is it unreasonable to ask that we see some stronger enforcement of moving system-specific threads into their appropriate forum? Specifically, if it's got 4e, PF, or some other name in the title it should probably be in a different forum.

(. . .)

Just a thought. It'd be nice if the General forum could once again be used for discussing, y'know, non-system-specific topics.

It's not unreasonable *and* it would clear up most of the problems. It would also help to move threads that ask for general advice but then immediately give examples that are edition-specific (because almost all of the time it really does require an edition specific answer, or it wouldn't require an edition-speific example). I see most of the edition war prodding and poking and outbreaks in threads just like the ones we have just described.


And this thread should be in the Meta-forum.